Williams/Parke families

Hi there,

I am happy to help in your search. I will look into it .

Andrea 

Thank you so very much!! !!!!

Stacey

Found this record in find my past 

Joseph Williams , dates match yours? 

https://www.discoverireland.ie/kildare/ballitore-library-quaker-museum

Parke burials in Ballitore quaker cemetery ...might be related to Elizabeth ? 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/231496968/anna-parke

You probably have this info on Thomas Parke born 1793http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/parke_thomas_9E.html

Andrea 

This file is the New Ross quaker burials 

There is a Joseph and Esther Williams 

Record above shows Esther Fawcett as mother to Joseph Williams b. 1790.

I need to look into it as it might be a different Joseph , the other record for Joseph Williams says birth 1789. 

Below photo of death record 1849 at Ballitore for Joseph Williams at Tynte Park. Says he was not a member of the Society of Friends so not a quaker ? 

A.

Just wanted to confirm that Elizabeth Parke is the mother of Joseph Williams and all Williams children? You know that for sure ? 

Thanks,

Andrea 

Andrea,

I thought you were on vacation. There was a Joseph Williams that was a quaker and was prominent in Ballitore. i spoke online at length with the quaker museum people and realized it was not the correct joseph. that joseph also was a prisoner of war, which took me down the rabbit hole as they say. According to what I found out he never married and had no children. Did not know he was born and died in the same years as my joseph (sr.)

As far as I know, Elizabeth Parke was the mother of all of Josephs children, but I have nothing that would say either way as I dont know anything, except her brother's name, Robert. The people buried with Parke name in Ballitore were 1719..kind of old . Elizabeth I would suspect was born nearish to when Joseph Senior and her brother were born..I would say 1799...ish.

Stacey...still looking at what you found...

Andrea,

Hard for me to read that record, what is the date of his death? Below is what I was going by especially because of the daughters birth record:

Joseph Williams (1828-1897) - Find a Grave Memorial

Ellen Josephine Williams Mosely (1840-1904) - Find a Grave Memorial

here are the headstones for Joseph (Jr) and his sister Ellen Josephine ( her headstone would indicate she was born in 1839,,,)

Excerpts from Josephine M Williams (m. Van Rossem) autobiography she was my great grandmother

The above, I believe is Joseph Williams (Sr.)

The above shows Joseph Williams (Jr.) involvement in Irish Home Rule movement.

Robert Parke (1802-1872) - Find a Grave Memorial

Ellen Josephine marriage record in 1878 indicates she was 36 so that would mean born in 1842..I wish she could get her age correct.

The only passenger list I found had the following : 

A Jun 18, 1833 Liverpool to NY ship Helen

Passenger list possibility for Williams family immig.:

 Joseph Williams (Sr.) 44, Elizabeth 34, Mary 9,

Hannah 7, Joseph (Jr.) 5, John 3, Elizabeth 1,

Mary Dawson 28 (Williams maiden or Parke maiden

 name or friend?), Ellen Parke 26 (Sister of Eliz? Sister

 in law?)

I have no idea, and that would mean at least Joseph (Sr) and Elizabeth would had to have returned to Ireland for Ellen Josephine to be born.. and then go back to canada after his death???

And, this is the only index I could come up with for a marriage:

I was thinking that if Joseph Sr. fought with wellington and Empress Josephine was alive, he must have been in war between the years 1804-1814 when she became empress and then died. 

thank you, much

S

Love the record of death, but what info does it have, because cannot read...did he die in tynte park or ballitore? anything else besides he was not a quaker? how did you find that?? You are awesome.

s

Andrea,

Could I please get a clearer picture of the record you sent.. I cant read it and wonder if the dates match what I had. Did it say he was buried in Ballitore Quaker Cemetary? It isnt on Find a Grave if so. Happy Easter. Thank you for the help. Stacey

Andrea, I hope I didnt come across as appreciative. I AM!! I have been searching for that record you posted here but cannot find it. I cant read it and I dont know what the columns are headed. Could you please send it to me again with the headings. I think that is Joseph Sr. so would love to have my friend see if they can find a grave in Ballitore for me....

Appreciative,

Stacey

hello again, with help from you I managed to gather the attached information on the Williams and Parke families, at least for the one generation and the follow up of generations in Canada and the U.S. There was only one irish birth record (Ellen Josephine Williams ) and one death record (Joseph Williams Sr.) that were found with your help, but at the time I didnt know all of the siblings. I even got a British Archive Newspaper subscription and could not find anything. If anyone could find anything that might get me further back or fill in my gaps, I would be deeply appreciative. If not, at least this list is out there in case someone else is looking for these people. Thank you. Stacey