Looking for family connections/history: Keegan, Doran, Carty or Bamfield in New Ross

Thank you so much for the great information!  While I'd seen the 1911 census data for Bridgert Doran with her brother Timothy on the Quay (and this jibed with my grandmother's own recollection of their [Timothy] owning a pub on the Quay), but hadn't before seen the 1901 data (that was a huge find, thank you so much!); their presence in Gobbinstown makes a great deal of sense with respect to both the Doran and Keegan burials in Rathgarogue cemetry.  

For the Keegans, I've only the 1911 census data for William Keegan,  as Michael was already in the Irish Guards by that time...(but I do have his WWI service records separately). William was apparently the station master in Aylwardstown, Kilkenny in 1911, but I can find no trace of him in the 1901 census, although I know most of his children and his wife were born in Wicklow (Rathdrum).

The Bridget M Keegan in 1924 would be my grandmother (she used Bridget as her middle name).

I'll most certainly order the research marriage certificate from the lik you provided, that will be very helpful as well!!

Again thank you so much for all your assistance!

Mark

 

Hello Mark

As another New Ross Doran descendent, I am interested in your query.  I can't offer any connections at the present time but should your research unravel a link to Pierce Doran born circa 1812 who died at his home on Ball Alley, New Ross in 1872 or his widow Mary Doran born circa 1810-1812, please keep me in mind.  I have death certificates for two Mary Dorans who died as widows in the Union of New Ross at the age of 65, one in 1875 and one in 1877 and am unable to tell which one was the widow of Pierce Doran.  

By coincidence, Pierce and Mary Doran's daughter-in law was a Bridget Mary Doran but that was her married name and she was born 60 years before your great grandmother.

Good luck with your research,

Irish Great Grands

 

Hi Mark

Just saw this.

You and I are 2nd or 3rd cousins as your GGM Bridget Doran was was my grandfather (James's) sister.

Both were grandchildren of James Carty who died on 18/4/1891 at age 78 which suggests he was born in 1812-13.

To answer your questions there are many other Doran relations who are descendants on those listed on the 1901 census sheet above still living in the area or in other parts of Ireland.  In fact that homestead  in the census is still occupied by descendants of one of the children.  I believe that it has been in the Carty and then Doran family for at least 200 years and probably much longer. I am not sure if that Carty name line has survived or died out.  That would depend on whether here were male survivors who had sons.  The 1911 census suggests perhaps not, unless they had emigrated or moved away at that stage.

My late father knew Michael Keegan prior to his death in 1944.  I think he was a pilot in in the RFC in WW1?

 

 

John,

My apologies for my extreme tardiness in my reply, I just revisited this board for the first time in quite some time!  Indeed we would be Third cousins, or in fact I think technically Second Cousins once removed (if my geneological understanding is correct), as you would be my mum Ann's second cousin.  Thank you so much for the information on James Carty as well.  Michael Keegan (my GGF) was indeed a pilot in the RFC in WWI (and then a staff officer in the RAF during WWII until his death).  

I know my Great Uncle Frank (Mick Keegan's youngest son) visited a number of his cousins in the 1980s, and visited a family farm as well: likely the Carty/Doran homestead you mentioned?  When I visited New Ross in 2013 my taxi driver mentioned there were still Carty's in the town; indeed some members of the youngest generation have achieved at least some local fame: The Carty Sisters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=126t_e04sCM).

Are you still located in Ireland, or are you (like me) a member of the diaspora?

Best Regards,

Mark

Hi Mark

I am almost 5 years late in posting this. I hope you pick up this message at some stage. 
We are 3rd cousins. My g-g-grandfather Patrick was Bridget's brother (and also brother of John's grandfather James from the other message).

John is correct that there are still Doran's in the original Carty house- a grandson of James & Bridget (Carty) if I have my generations right. A lot of descendants of James & Bridget still live within a few miles of that house, including myself.

I'd be happy to continue this chat off the board if you want by email. 

Typed 1 "g" too many in my last post... Patrick was my great grandfather not g-g-grandfather

Hi Mark

I too am late to this thread and fairly new to this site. I have found a Carty in my tree.

Eliza (Elizabeth) Carty born 16th April 1876 Stokestown died 8th January 1906 5 William Street, New Ross. Her father was Lawrence Carty and her mother Margaret Molloy. She was married to my great grandfather Thomas Dunne and the 1901 census shows them living in Cross Lane, New Ross and that she was a dressmaker. They had 2 children - Michael Joseph and Margaret May Dunne.

Not sure if she fits in with your tree but thought I'd let you know.

All the best

Seán