Gorman's and Maher's of Thurles

Following is a transcription of the marriage record for Philip Gorman and Mary Fogarty. Note it provides their fathers' names.

Date of Marriage:15-May-1873
Parish / District:THURLESCounty:Co. Tipperary
HusbandWife
Name:PhilipGormanMaryFogarty
Address:Quarry StLisduff
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:WEAVER
Age:
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name:JohnGormanRichardFogarty
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:WEAVERLABORER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:Not RecordedNot RecordedNot RecordedNot Recorded
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:MichaelGormanMaryGorman
Address:
Notes:
JOHNY BUTLER DD [PRIEST]
** FULL AGE
*** FULL AGE
FATHER's HUSBAND DECEASED
WIFE's FATHER DECEASED
X ***
X *****
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Thank you for that effort Patricia. I already have this information but I am looking for other issue to John Gorman and Ellen Kerwan. I had initially thought that Philip may have been the first born but he may have been the last born. 

An initial search of the Parish Registers microfilm today found no other issue 1839-1844

Andrew

Online the Parish Church Records only appear to go back to 1796. Does anyone know if they are available further back. Also their seems to be no Parish Church death Registers available.

Andrew

Andrew,  I have been trying to figure out where our tree branches meet.  Following is what I have been able to semi-confirm:  Philip Gorman dob 1841, dod 1906, married to Mary Fogerty dob 1850, dod 1902.  Their children: Bridget dob 1874, dod 1911; John dob 1875, dod 1943; Michael dob 1877, dod 1959, Patrick dob 1878, dod ??; Philip L dob 1883, dod 1936; Edmund dob 1885, dod 1888; Edward dob 1891, dod 1952.      I have not found a Mary as one of their children.    My goal is to locate my grandfather, John Patrick O'Gorman, who claimed to be the some of John and Margaret (Dunne) Gorman of Thurles.  He was born around 1900.  I am not sure what if any of that information is correct, but the DNA match is encouraging.  Unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge to connect the DNA line.  Anyone who would like to help Andrew and I, is most welcome and is dearly appreciated.  Colleen O'Gorman

 

 

 

RootsIreland has baptismal records for these children of John Gorman and Ellen Kirwan:

GormanMary1836Co. Tipperary

GormanPhilip1841Co. Tipperary

GormanMichael1845Co. Tipperary

GormanMargaret1846Co. Tipperary

There may be others, with Ellen listed as Eleanor or Helen, for example, or with Ellen called Ellen Gorman.

Hi

I'm descended from james Gorman born 1811, in Inch near Thurles. Gorman seems to be a common name in Thurles, You say you hve done DNA, it would be interesting to compare. my brother and my Gedmatch numbers appear on James' profile at wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gorman-1073 . Do we match? mary

Hi Andrew,

I am one of the extended O'Gorman family from Tipperary though I actually live in a different part of Ireland. The O'Gorman, MacGorman and Gorman names can be from the same family because we were not allowed to use prefixes during colonisation.

Just a note about the "Thurles" connection, this can be a bit misleading because Thurles is the postal address for a lot of towns & villages which are located some miles from Thurles. For example, Mullinahone is in the Thurles postal district. This is worth remembering when checking up historical facts- so that you don't discount any relevant research that might not seem to fit with your geographical details.

Have you now found the information that you are seeking?

All the best,

AM

 

PS Hi again Colleen - as we communicated a few years ago.

 

I am interested in this discussion.