Searching for Guidera relatives

RootsIreland lists 11 children for Michael and Margaret:

1. Civil Birth     Guidera         Mary  1865    Co. Tipperary          
2. Civil Birth     Guidera         Sarah  1866    Co. Tipperary          
3. Civil Birth     Guidera         Daniel            1867    Co. Tipperary          
4. Civil Birth     Guider           Patrick           1869    Co. Tipperary          
5. Civil Birth     Guidera         Johanna         1870    Co. Tipperary          
6. Civil Birth     Guidera         Michael          1872    Co. Tipperary          
7. Civil Birth     Guider           Thomas          1873    Co. Tipperary          
8. Civil Birth     Guider           Edward          1874    Co. Tipperary          
9. Civil Birth     Guidera         Margaret       1876    Co. Tipperary
10. Civil Birth     Guidera         James 1878    Co. Tipperary          
11. Civil Birth     Guidera         Bridget           1880    Co. Tipperary

Thank you for the quick response.  I will review the information you sent over.  I appreciate the thoughtful reply!

Roger and Patricia,

Thank you again for this.  Is the listing of kids and births all attributed to Michael and Margaret?  I noticed that some were Guider and some were Guidera.  It sounds like Michael Guider (Guidera) was a farmer. Thanks for all of this information.

We are also searching for when John Guidera came over to the United States.  He was born in 1859 and came over between 1879-1881.  Again, another mystery for out family.

Thanks,

Bob

Hi, The Guider and Guidera names in the baptismal records...all the children belong to Michael and Margaret.  Variations in spelling are very common in old records. 

Thank you Patricia!  You have been incredibly helpful.  I appreciate it.

Last question - I promise...

I see on the marriage record between Michael and Margaret Burke that the father is listed as John Guidera.  We had Michael Guidera as the father of Michael Guidera (although no source). I found a John Guidera who was born around 1798 and died in 1875.  Could this be the father?  Anyway to tie this to our Michael.

It looks like Michael had a brother John and that he had the property and that some of Michael's sons stayed with him (according to the 1901 census and 1911 census).

My specific question is the father of Michael Guidera (spouse Margaret Burke) Michael or John Guidera?  Does that make sense with the naming conventions back then?  I don't know how many siblings Michael and John had, but it looks like Michael is the first son and John the second?  IF John is the father would it normally be the third son is named after the father.  Could Michael's father be the John Guidera that was born in 1798.

Thank you for all your help.  I spent 2 hours last night and kept going in circles.

Bob

Thanks for the help with this post.  I was trying to use the Griffith Valuation to find where the Guider relatives lived and am a little confused.  Would someone be able to help me track where Michael Guidera or his Uncle John Guidera lived and in what location?

Thanks Roger.  I guess it wouldn't be unusual for Michael Guidera to work on his Uncle's piece of land as he is shown to be with him in the 1901 census assuming that it's the same family.

I am looking for information these Guideras (Guiders) and see if there is some general information on the girls who may have come to the US and who they married and if there is a tree for this group who stayed in Ireland. I have been successful in tracking their half brother John who was born in 1859 to the America and his subsequent family, but we found that in 1911 he said he had two sisters in Yonkers, NY and Manhatten, NY. We don't know which ones or their married names. In 1911, he also said he had 6 brothers in Ireland. We are sure there is a lot of Irish based history from this group, but we haven't been able to find much.

Eliza 1858 - half sister

1. Civil Birth    Guidera        Mary 1865   Co. Tipperary          
2. Civil Birth    Guidera        Sarah 1866   Co. Tipperary          
3. Civil Birth    Guidera        Daniel           1867   Co. Tipperary          
4. Civil Birth    Guider          Patrick          1869   Co. Tipperary          
5. Civil Birth    Guidera        Johanna        1870   Co. Tipperary          
6. Civil Birth    Guidera        Michael         1872   Co. Tipperary          
7. Civil Birth    Guider          Thomas         1873   Co. Tipperary          
8. Civil Birth    Guider          Edward         1874   Co. Tipperary          
9. Civil Birth    Guidera        Margaret      1876   Co. Tipperary
10. Civil Birth    Guidera        James 1878   Co. Tipperary          
11. Civil Birth    Guidera        Bridget          1880   Co. Tipperary

Thanks in advance for any help.

Bob

Thanks for the quick response.

If in 1911, John Guidera had one sister in Manhatten and one in Yonkers it is either Eliza, Mary (Larkin), Sarah, Johanna or Margaret. Bridget looks like she married too late and was in Ireland. I did track down Sister Euthropia. I guess that narrows it down a little. I can probably check ships' logs to see if any of those names are listed on passenger ships that came to America prior to 1911.

the marriage record would seem to indicate Mary was born in 1868 (1895-27 years old) versus her birth which seems to indicate 1865. Do you think her marriage and birth are one in the same?

Civil Birth    Guidera        Mary 1865   Co. Tipperary

Ancestry.

Roger,

I guess the birth generally wins out over the marriage, but hard to track down information when you have divergent dates like that. I'm surprised there isn't much information on the Guidera line with so many left in Ireland. Even an obituary that would give information on the family.

Thanks for your help.

Bob

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