I am trying to track information about James O'Mara and Johanna Coffey, who I believe lived in Clonoulty Parish - perhaps on the Woodford estate in the early/ mid 1800s. A number of their children - Bridget, Michael, Thomas, William, Margaret and Ellen emigrated to Melbourne, Australia.
I believe Michael may have been a policeman when he was living in Tipperary.
Frances
Frances:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
The Clonoulty RC records start in 1804 http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0256 Like most parishes in the Diocese of Cashel and Emly the records are not on Roots Ireland. However, Find My Past has some records and I located a possible marriage record in 1819 for a James Mara and Judith Coffee (see below). I've seen Johanna and Judith interchanged before. Is this too early? I searched for baptismal records and the only one I located was for a Margaret in 1840 (see below). I would scan the parish register for the baptisms for the other children. The 1850 Griffiths Valuation records for Clonoulty show a James Mara in Clonoulty Churchquarters.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Roger McDonnell
First name(s)JamesLast nameMaraAddressClonoultyMarriage year1819Marriage date22 Feb 1819ParishClonoultyAlternative parish namesClogher, Clonoulty and Clogher, Clonoulty and Rossmore, RossmoreDioceseCashel and EmlySpouse's first name(s)JudithSpouse's last nameCoffeeSpouse's addressClonoultyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632687#page/1/mode/1upRegisterMarriage
First name(s)MargaretLast nameMaraBirth year-Baptism year1840Baptism date05 Dec 1840ResidenceWoodfordParishClonoultyAlternative parish namesClogher, Clonoulty and Clogher, Clonoulty and Rossmore, RossmoreDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JamesFather's last nameMaraMother's first name(s)JudithMother's last nameCoffeyRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1up
First name(s)JAMESLast nameMARARoleoccupierYear1850Printing date1850-11-12TownlandCLONOULTY CHURCHQUARTERCivil ParishCLONOULTYBaronyKILNAMANAGH, LOWERPoor Law UnionCASHELCountyTipperaryLessor's first name(s)EDMONDLessor's last nameMURPHYOccupier's first name(s)JAMESOccupier's last nameMARAAct9&10Record setGriffith's Valuation 1847-1864
Dear Roger
Thanks - I had found the Griffiths entry and thought I was on the right track as the death certificates various family members who migrated to Victoria indicated that they were born in Woodford Tipperary which I tracked to the Murphy family property at Clonoulty.
I believe the marriage date you found could be my ancestors as the eldest child that I know of - Bridget, my gg grandmother - was born abt 1822. Also the birth registration for Margaret could be one of my family members. The records I have seen relating to her have three different birth years - death certificate, headstone and emigration ranging from 1839 to 1843 - so 1840 makes sense to me. I will do some more hunting to see if I can find other family members. Thanks for the hint about Judith/Johanna.
Do you have any suggestion about how I can look up police force records for Michael? He became quite an influential person in the Roman Catholic community in Melbourne.
Regards Frances
Frances:
There are a number of sites on RIC constables.
http://www.royalirishconstabulary.com/index2012.html
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-gui…
http://www.eneclann.ie/2011/07/my-ancestor-was-a-policeman/
Roger
I was interested to read this information about James Mara who is my 4 time great grandfather through his daughter Margaret who married Thomas Smithwick in Australia.
For the marriage of James Mara and Judith Coffey you provide a link to the Clonoulty parish registers and a date of 22 Feb 1819. I cannot find that marriage in the register for that date or any date in 1819 nor for February from 1814 to 1820. I was also given that date by the Tipperary Family History Research Group some years ago. I may have missed the entry somehow but would be verygrateful if you could show me where it is.
The Tipperary Family History Research group also found the baptisms of Honora on 27/1/ 1822 (perhaps Bridget), Mary in 1824, John in 1825, Kathleen in 1828 , Michael in 1829, Thomas in 1831and Margaret in 1840
Hello,
Coffee / Coffey family appears many times in the Parish of Clonoulty. It is worth trawling through the Parish register as advised because you will get the Sponsor or Witness names too. The first register is not too big and once you have your "eye" it is easy to find this name with the exaggerated 'C' ?
This name is closely associated with my Crowe and var names
Stuike / Turraheen being principal townlands in Clonoulty for me
You may need to cut and paste the text of my records to search for the Coffee / Coffey names?
Best wishes
Shay
Crowe Anty -181708 Apr 1817Stuike StrikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLPatrickCroweMaryCoffee NLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632687#page/1/mode/1upBaptism
CroweConnor Connor-1819? Nov 1819StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLPatrickCroweMaryCoffee NLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632687#page/1/mode/1upBaptism
CrowePatrick
24 May 185718585 Jul 1858TyrreheenClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroaghCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptisJohn MasonMargaret Crowe
CroughJane
24 May 185718602 May 1860StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroaghCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismJames MasonHannah Ryan
CroughMary
24 May 1857186230 Aug 1862KilcroeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroughCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismThomas MasonCatherine Crowe
CroughMaryIRL Govt Cert
24 May 1857186418 Oct 1864StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroughCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismWilliam CroaghMary Croagh
CroughAndrew
24 May 1857186618 Aug 1866
ClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRL JohnCroak KateMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismJohn Coffey Ellen Croak
CroughCatherineTranscription Image Catherine24 May 1857186915 Feb 1869StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroughCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismCornelius CroaghWinifrede Croagh
CroughThomas
24 May 1857187226 Mar 1872StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroughCatherineMasonNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismAndrew MasonMary Ryan
CroughMargaret
24 May 1857187401/06/1874StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLJohnCroughCatherineMasonIGI ldshttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBirthLana? TomeyBridget Crowe
CroughMargaretTranscription Image Margaret-184511 Jan 1845StuickClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmdCroughHonorahRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismPatrick CroughMargaretRyanCroughWilliamTranscription Image William-184614 Apr 1846StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismPatrick CroughMary CroughCroughMaryTranscription Image Mary-184823 Feb 1848StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismDanielDwyerBridgetCorkeranCroughEllenTranscription Image Ellen-185013 Feb 1850StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismTimothyCroughJudithCroughCroughWinifredTranscription Image Winifred-185201 Mar 1852
ClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismPatrick MurrayJudith CorcoranCroughMatthiasTranscription Image Matthias-185430 Apr 1854StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismMichaelDwyerMary CroughCroughPatrickTranscription Image Patrick-185508 Apr 1855StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632689#page/1/mode/1upBaptismJohnKennedyMary RyanCroagh AnneTranscription(purchased) Image Anne
186412 Sep 1864StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroaghHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismJohnCoffeyMargaretCroaghCroaghElizabeth
Elizabeth-186708 Feb 1867StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmondCroaghHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismWilliamCroughMary CroughCroughEdmundTranscription Image Edmund-187006 Apr 1870StuikeClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyTipperaryIRLEdmundCroughHonoraRyanNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upBaptismCorneliusCroughCatherineCrough
Clonoulty, Cashel and Emly, Tipperary Transcription ImagePatrickCroAGHClogher186611 Feb 1866ClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyJoannaHayesClogherTipperaryIRLNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632690#page/1/mode/1upMarriageJohnCoffeyBridgetHayesNo RC or SR kids
Clonoulty, Cashel and Emly, Tipperary Transcription ImagePatrick (Taylor)CrowEStuike Strake18141 Jun 1814ClonoultyClogher, RossmoreCashel and EmlyBridgetMagrath-TipperaryIRLNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632687#page/1/mode/1upMarriageThomas MagrathJohn DwyerJohn Coffee
Upperchurch and Drombane, Cashel and Emly, TipperaryTranscription ImageEllenCrow-18564 Feb 1856Upperchurch and DrombaneDrombane, UpperchurchCashel and EmlyDannielCoffee-TipperaryIRLNLIhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632780#page/1/mode/1upMarriage
I am not sure who else has joined the conversation - perhaps a cousin I have had some other correspondence with? Anyway Thanks Shay, or those links which I will have a look at. Regards Frances