would like to plan a visit

Hi Tom,

This is great! I think I have some reading material for the plane trip, now. The link for the graveyard did not work, but perhaps I can see it in person? That is fascinating.

We will be arriving in Dublin on the morning of the 24th and will pick up a car and head towards Cahir. We are not checking out of the Tinsley House until the 27th, so we will be in the area for a few days. We would LOVE to meet up with you anytime. We have no firm plans right now, other than where we are boarding. Portlaise would be grand.

Urlingford is one of our planned visits since my husband has ancestors from Lower Tubrid, Urlingford Parish. I have not found out much about them, so I do not know what we would look at! [James Campion, laborer, married to Mary McCormick 10 July 1856 for whom I found four children born to them between 1857 and 1865, Catherine, Bridget, Mary, and Bridget. The younger Bridget is the one I think is his ancestor. She immigrated to New York City circa 1883.]

We certainly hope we get a chance to meet you!

Barbara

Hi Tom,

That was an AMAZING visit. You were so generous with your time and knowledge. Learning about the history of the area and getting an orientation to the townlands has been a great boon to my research. Connecting me with local people was brilliant too and gave me a breakthrough as well as a 2nd cousin! What a great trip --thank you!!

Barbara

Hi Tom,

Thank you very much for the recommendation. I have just booked us in for three nights and will use Cahir as our base for exploring the region. My husband has ancestors from Urlingford and Creamer's Grove in Kilkenny County, so this is convenient for both of us. I certainly look forward to talking with Mr. Roche.

Thank you also for your suggestion concerning the maps associated with Griffith's Valuation. I have found Patrick Roche's land which abutted the estate (farm?) of his landlord, the Earl of Glengall. I see on a modern map that the Glengall farm still exists. There was second entry for Patrick Roche for land leased from Earl of Glengall in the townland of Lissara. I cannot locate Lissara the map, even though I know the map reference numbers. I notice that in the 18026 Tithe Applotment Book, this location appears as: Clonmore & Lisarra, Wood & Mountains, belonging to the Earl of Glengall.

Patrick Roche was listed (Griffith's) in Lissara next to David Roche who had house house, offices and land there. I suspect David was Patrick's father.

The other record I have found for Patrick is his death on 24 December 1874 at Kilcommon. He was 70 years old, a farmer and a widower. The informant was John Roche, householder.

I did not know that Kill refered to a church - that is helpful. We will certainly be stopping at all the sites you mentioned. My husband and I are very much looking forward to our visit!

Best Regards,

Barbara

Hi Tom,

That is good to post.  I had discovered there are locations that were more easily found using a round about method (a specific Google search string usually does it). 

Congratulations on the red Rosette for your great honey.  I completely agree that it is award worthy!!

Did my last e-mail reply go through to you? There was an attached document, so just checking to make sure it did not go to the spam box.

Best wishes,

B & T

Tom, that is great news! It was frustrating to have so little time in the library in Dublin since it is important to look at the original records. The extracts are *extremely* helpful, but then I like to see the original. Little errors here and there in the extracts can make important differences in genealogy! Thanks so much for the update.

Tom,

Thank you for letting me know. Tim and I are indeed sad to hear she has passed away. So glad you introduced us to her. It was uncanny how she resembled by grandfather. At least I have a photograph and one of her handmade doilies to remember her by.

Barbara