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MAHER/ STAPLETON/ WHITE Pallis/ Pallas Cross

TipperaryBorrisoleigh (Tipperary)

Hi! Have been researching above families many years with limited info but now thanks to Catholic Parish Registers I think I have found myfamily.

Known info - Michael MAHER(farmer) marr Ellen STAPLETON, dau Catherine b1830-1835 Tipperary.

Catherine marr Jas WHITE(b1828 Tipperary) a convict from Roscommon. (Have all convict details etc). They had dau Mary b1849c who died in Ireland before Jas & Catherine came to WA in 1853 & 1856 respectively.

Found info - Michael/Mick MAHER & Ellen/Nelly STAPLETON with 7 children all bap in Pallis/ Pallas Cross, Borrisoleigh between 1821 & 1837.No Catherine, BUT one of the children is Kitty 1829 & I see that Kitty is a version of Catherine!

Also found marr record Catherine MAHER of Pallas & James WHITE 25.7.1847 Borrisoleigh RC Parish.

Also bap record of Mary WHITE 17.3.1849 Borrisoleigh, Cashel Emly Diocese. Residence Dromtarsna, sponsor Judy BOURKE.

I have searched death/ cemetery records but nothing coming up. I realise there are many christian/ surname double-ups in Irish families so is the above suffice to claim as my family??

Does anyone out there recognise these names to help firm up my discoveries, or perhaps someone can point meto other recordsto further my research? Have checked Griffiths Valuations & Census.

Many thanks

Col

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Hi Col

The Tithe Applotments (1823-37 & free online) may be interesting for you.

www.irishgenealogy.ie/ has some Tipp records.

www.rootsireland.ie/ requires a subscription but holds a lot of BMD Tipp records - both North & South.

If you don't want to subscribe I can search if you specify exactly who & what you're after; same applies to ancestry if you havent tried there.

www.findmypast.ie/ requires credit but is cheaper than rootsireland.ie I believe.

Col (also)

 

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks Col for the above suggestions.  Have family down for the weekend but will start checking out the sites come Monday and get back to you.

Col

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Hi Col

I've checked the Tithe Applotments but couldn't find anyone to make a defintie claim on.  I'm now slowly ploughing through the Irish Genealogy site but no luck so far - just so many christian & surnames the same!

I have a current account with Find My Past & also free search of Ancestry till end of month.  So have been exhausting both of those sites.

Perhaps I could take you up on the offer of a search or two on the rootsireland.ie site for me - that would be really appreciated.

Michael MAHER b1800c & Ellen STAPLETON B1800c - Marriage & Death records.  Perhaps born Tipperary area??

Children(of above) listed below all born Pallis, Borrisoleigh, Tipperary.

Marr & death records -

Martin MAHER  b14.3.1837

Patrick MAHER  b 17.9.1833

James MAHER  b11.6.1827

Mary MAHER  b 5.6.1825

Michael MAHER  b 25.7.1821

There's a few there so only search whatever you have time for - it will be appreciated!

Thanks, Col

 

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Col,

Only marraige Maher to Ellen Stapleton:

Date of Marriage:16-Jan-1844
Parish / District:DROM
County:Co. Tipperary
Husband
WifeName:JohnMaher
EllenStapletonAddress:Not Recorded
Not RecordedDenomination:Roman Catholic
Roman CatholicOccupation:
Witness 1
Witness 2Name:JohnBurke
MaryBurke

There are 22 marriages of Martin Maher in Tipp around1860; 37 for Patrick; 33 for James; 67 for Mary & 23 for Michael

With the tradition being to marry in the bride's parish & 4 of the 5 being male, it's will be a considerable amount of trawling to find the right record for each given that the marriage year is also a guess.

There are 12 birth/baptism records for Michael Maher in Tipp 1800 + - 5 years but none is from Borrisoleigh

Here's a possible for Ellen:

Name:Ellen StapletonDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:19-Jul-1800Address:
Parish/District:ThurlesGender:
CountyCo. Tipperary
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:John StapletonMother:Margaret FahyOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Edmund DwyerSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Ellen Ryan

I couldn't find any death records for the 4 males in Borrisoleigh

Col

 

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Col, thanks for all your searching and time given.  The baptism of Ellen looks like a good possibility. 

I agree that it's too much to go trawling through all those possible records of Michael & Ellen's children.  And of course the marriage of Ellen is to a John, not a Michael unfortunately.

With the "no show" in the death records of Borrisoleigh I am beginning to wonder if they perhaps emigrated to the USA or Canada?

Perhaps another possibility fro me to chase up on Find My Past.

 

Thanks once again for your help!

Col

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Michael Maher and Ellen Stapleton lived in Drumtarsna (Pallas Cross), Glenkeen Parish, County Tipperary. They are included in the Irish Stapleton Research Tree that I manage on ancestry. Ellen is from one of the Pallas/Rathmoy/Aughvolyshane famillies.

Best regards,

Mike Stapleton

Irish Stapleton Researcher

Stapleton Surname Project Administrator - FTDNA

Mike Stapleton

Hello there- very late to this string and new to this message board on Ireland Reaching Out, but I too am searching through the Borrisoleigh/Upperchurch/Drom records-- for my great great grandmother Bridget Burke, born about 1844. I only know that she was born in Tipperary, but I am focused on these parishes for 3 reasons: (!) I have a DNA match whose 3rd great grandfather is Thomas Stapleton of  Upperchurch (born 1 May 1816, father John Stapleton, mother Mary Kelley, baptised in Borrisoleigh Parish- cannot make out the townland-- Knockaneevin?); (2) another DNA match has a tree with Bourkes in Upperchurch; (3) several of the families with whom Bridget Burke and her husband are associated in Baltimore, Maryland in the 1860s (St Mary's Govans, primarily) are from the Borrisoleigh - eg Finn, Maher, Fahy. Stapletons show up as marriage witnesses in Baltimore for a Bourke I believe related to Bridget.

I have five candidates whose trees I need to develop for Bridget, assuming she named her first and only daughter after her mother, ie Mary. My questions are: (1) was there a migration from that area to Baltimore post-famine into the 1860s? The Towson area of Baltimore seems full of Tipperary residents; (2) Mike, am I eligible to join the Stapleton surname project, though I have not verified Stapletons in my tree yet?

 

Thanks, Betsy

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