John Lynch

Hi Frank . . . 

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out . . . and Tipperary County . . 

Lets see if we can be of some help . . . in your search . . . 

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I began my search . . . ( using Roots paid)     given birth date 1805 +/- 5 yrs. . . . area S.Tipp . . BALLYNEALE . . near                 Carrick on Suir . . .2 Lynche's came up . . . 

The other 2 looks quite promising  (see below ) . . . and MAP 

Jacob  1805 Carrick on Suir  . .  possible Father to  JOHN Lynch . . . Number 6 below  . . . 

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The R.C.Parish Records for Ballyneale . . . https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1095 . . . as you will see . . only begin Baptism records in 1839 . . 

I am presuming . . . prior to 1839 . . . they were registered in Carrick on Suir  . . 

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1101 . . . trying to trace thru. those registers . . is needle in haystack stuff . . . 

also . . I'm guessing . . maybe . . .that there wasn't a R.C. Chapel in Ballyneale before 1839 . .  . 

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So . . again . . . the question . . . were they married in Ireland . . or Canada . . . ??? 

When I search for the Marriage in ALL Ireland . . date approx 1823 . . . Nothing 

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IF ..that is YOUR John Lynch . . . b.1809 . . . then his approx. date of Marriage . . . would be 1840 +/- 10 yrs.

So . . first off . . I reduced my search to two Counties . . . Tipperary and Longford . . . NOTHING . . . 

then I searched ALL Ireland . . . and the following lead showed up . . . (see below) .

It's a long way from Carrick on Suir to Croom.Co.Limerick . . esp. in those times . . however . . not impossible . . .

then there is the difference in the Brides Christian name  . . . . . 

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I'm presuming you have checked CANADA for a registration of a Marriage ???

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Here's a thing . . . there is also an Edwardstown.  in Co.Limerick   (see MAP below) . . . could it be possible that someone jumped to the conclusion 

that there was only one Edwardstown . . . and that it had to be Longford   ??

Against the Croom marriage  . . is the fact . . . that FARRELL is a predominatly LONGFORD surname .

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0164

50 Mary Farrell . . . turned up . . . in that time zone . . . and as most of them were registered in Longford Town . . . so . . it proved again .. needle in a haystack . . .

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Again I searched LIMERICK County . . . for a Baptism of Mary Farrell . . .same years . . . NO joy . . 

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JAMES Lynch . . . 1824 . . . Tipperary Co. +/- 5yrs.

MICHAEL Lynch . . 1824 . . .Tipperary Co.  "

BRIDGET . . .1824   ...Tipp ...

NOTHING for the above names . . . 

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So Frank . . . I have run out of ideas for further searching . . . 

I hope you get something out of the above   ; ; ; 

Best of Luck with your continued search . . . 

Cheers . . . Eamonn.

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Hi again Frank . . . 

They say two heads are better than one . . . H'm'm'm . . I wonder in this case .. . lets see . . . 

I looked at your ref. to 1851 Canada Census. . . (below) . . . and . . my first impression is . . . John is a single 28 y.o. . .in  Wellington Co. Ontario . . 

which begs the question . . is he just there for work ?? . . away from his family ?? or maybe he is not YET married ?? what trade is he working at . . . 

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 (1) .Question Frank . . . where are you in the World . . . are you U.S.   or Canada . . . are we talking about your Mothers ..Aunties  . . . Names ???

were they Canadian born . . . U.S. born  . . . ??  I am aware of the proximity of Buffalo N.Y. . . as a possible crossing from Upper N.Y.

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(2)  Why would you be so sure . . . re.Census 1851 . . .that John Lynch . . is YOUR John . . . ??

(3) Presume Census of 1861 . . . is your John again . . . now showing    " Married " . . . BUT . . way out in Victoria B.C.

     again this begs the question . . . where is his Wife . . . ???

Could this be her . . . 1851 Census . . Quebec . . age 22,  (below )

Could this be John 's ..Brother .. Michael . . . in Quebec City . . . (below)

BRIDGET . . in 1851 Census . . Quebec City . .  .

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MARRIAGE . . . Canada . . . to Mary Farrell  (see below )  . . . maybe between 1851 - 1861 . . . (below)

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Frank . . . my head is spinning with Lynch's . . . . 

See how you are getting on with thw above  . . . .  it looks promising . . . . 

I decline to go further . . . as I may be on a complete false hunt . . . 

Cheers again . . . Eamonn.

Hi Frank . . . 

I paid another visit to South Tipperary . . . with add.info. re.   Townsland of LandHolding . . . http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp

Which brought me to a TAX roll . . known as  "Tithes Applotment " . . . .1823 - 1837 . . . ( tax men were good at recording - always )

( see below ) . . . here we show JAMES and David      http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Lynch&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=20

So this is confirmation of their land holding . . . 

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587444/004587444_00167.pdf

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Fast forward then to another TAX roll . . . called " Griffiths Valuations "  1847 - 1864 . . . 

and again we find (below) . .JAMES and Patrick . . . 

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So next . . . I had a look at our National Census of 1901 . . and sure enough the Lynch's . are still farming the same land . . (below)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=Lynch&exact=&firstname=&county19011911=Tipperary&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&houseNumber=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumberDiv=&protNumber=&parish=&barony=&yearsMarried=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familyId=&ageInMonths=&pager.offset=200

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In 1911 Census . . . (see below )

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More food for thought Frank . . . 

Cheers . . . Eamonn  ( the weeds in my garden beckon me )

 

 

Hi Eileen . . . ( what a very beautiful Christian name  . . . I have many many Eileen's in my near Fam. . . my late Mother, eldest Sister, 1st Cous. and Niece )

Welcome to lockdown Ireland . . . and beautiful Tipperary . . . 

Yours was a very very long shot query . . . back that far  . . . Unfortunately records do not stretch that far back . . . 

I did try a few leads . . but to no avail . . . sorry . . . 

Back then . . .emigration to Nfld . . . was by the Fishermen . . out of S.E.Ireland . . chasing the Cod . . . wooden sail boats . . . 

Famous NFLD song . . . " Is'e the boy who builds the boats . . . and Is'e the boy who sails 'em " . . . 

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Cheers.   Eamonn.

Hi Frank  . . . 

here is the site for " Ballyneale " - branch of Ireland Reaching Out . . . https://irelandxo.com/ireland/tipperary/ballyneale-tipperary

If anyone can help you . . . I'm sure it's them  . .  hopefully . . 

I will try and alert them to . . searches to date . . and progress . . if any !!

Cheers . . Eamonn..