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Any 1830's military records?

Sligo

Family lore says my Collins came from Sligo in 1841/1842, except the death cert of one daughter says "County Demar, Ireland". I know there's no such thing, even spelled differently. My guess is the daughter's daughter mis-remembered some location in Sligo. My best guess is it was Doomore in Achrony.

But my other clue is that my Collins' registered religion in Ontario was "Church of England" AND I have very little Irish DNA, which suggests my William Collins was a Welshman or Englishman temporarily stationed in Sligo in the 1830's.

Has anyone come across military records there (before 1841)?

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Kyle,

Google: Military - Garrison Town Sligo which will give you details of the Military 1700 - 1800 in Sligo.

The file is too large to post.

Regards,

McCoy

You say...............

But my other clue is that my Collins' registered religion in Ontario was "Church of England" AND I have very little Irish DNA, which suggests my William Collins was a Welshman or Englishman temporarily stationed in Sligo in the 1830's.

As Ireland was part of Great Britain, it was the Church of England, it changed to the Church of Ireland later.

Margot Secrette

Following the Act of Union in 1800, the church’s full name was the United Church of England and Ireland. In Ireland many folk called it the Church of Ireland, though some used the term Church of England. Both mean exactly the same thing.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Yes, but that means they were not Catholic. I assume most natives of Sligo were Catholic and the protestants were immigrants.

kdavenpo@tx.rr.com

Kyle,

Population of Co. Sligo in 1901 was 80,555. 72,750 were Roman Catholic leaving around 8000 other denominations (about 10% of the population). The non Catholics are mostly likely descendants of incomers but they may have arrived any time from around 1610 onwards.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

It is Drimbane, Achrony, Sligo. A Michael is listed in 1827, also he is listed in Crimlin, Achrony and a Thomas in Maylough, Achrony.

Achrony is also the name of the Diocese you will have a bit of a problem identifying a birth area.

This is a death record of a Mary Collins in Drumbane (Drimbane must have changed the spelling) Andrew Collins was present at the death, worth checking to see if you can find his birth.

4629939.pdf

Margot Secrette

Did your William Collins live in Peel, Ontario at any time?

Margot Secrette

@Margot Thank you. Numerous unrelated Catholic Collins there. I have noticed they tend to use the same Catholic names like Michael, Peter, Mary, Andrew. None of my Collins were ever named those. Instead I have William, Thomas, Elizabeth, James, George, Robert, Margaret, Jane...

Brothers William and Thomas Collins and their families moved to Dundas, Ontario. I wrote a fun little story about them:

A Collins' Tale

@McCoy I tried searching and could not find any soldier rolls or rosters, but I did come across this interesting resource:

"Hidden Histories: Political/Historical Perspectives of Sligo" It has this passage:

"Edward Cooper, who owned Markree Castle, had a shooting lodge in the mountain in the 1600s above Dromore West. He was a cornet, the lowest rung of commissioned cavalry officers in the British army. When the Cromwellian wars ended and the Crown restored, there was no money to pay the soldiers who fought. The soldiers were given small holdings of land in Ireland as payment instead of cash. Cooper was in Coote’s regiment (Welsh) and most of the soldiers received land in this area. The soldiers were not anxious to come to Ireland at the time. Cooper then bought their shares of land cheaply and made an estate, first in Limerick, and then bought plots in Sligo from the soldiers he knew in Coote’s regiment."

So of course, my Collins might have lived there for generations, and simply never married local Irish.

kdavenpo@tx.rr.com

I think the only place now is PRONI....... Public Records of Northern Ireland. all non Catholic records are help there.

Was it Williamsburg Dundas where they lived? If it was William states Methodist.

Margot Secrette

I have a screenshot of the 1851 Census in my "Collin's Tale" . It says "C. England"

Oh, well. No records for William Collins in Sligo on PRONI...

kdavenpo@tx.rr.com

In Ireland, your ancestors were evidently Church of Ireland. There are about 30 parishes in Co. Sligo. You can see what they are all called using this link:

https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/county_civil.php?county=Sligo

Some of the Church of Ireland parishes lost their early records in the 1922 fire during the civil war in Dublin where, ironically, they had been sent for safe keeping. Others still exist. Some are still held by the parish, some are in the RCB Library in Dublin and some in the National Archives in Dublin. Few are on-line. A personal visit is generally required to view them. You can see what records exist in Co Sligo, parish by parish, and where they are held, on the attached register.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

@Elwyn In that first pdf link, I saw a Dromard Killala Sligo listing with baptism dates back to 1829. I thought maybe Dromard is what the daughter heard.

I have had no luck with RootsIreland.ie, so I searched elsewhere and see LDS has the original images - 2,182 of them un-indexed! lol. Needs the AI treatment.

I do have specific birthdates for some of their 7 children born there...

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