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Information on Patrick Rogers and Penelope Eagan

RoscommonTibohine (Roscommon)

My great, great grandparents were Patrick Rogers and Penelope Eagan who lived in the Village of Loughglinn.  I think that Patrick was the same Patrick Rogers shown in the 1857-58 Griffith's Valuation in Loughglinn as the leasee of Lot 45 from Viscount Dillon which was a fair green, tolls and customs of fairs.  Patrick and Penelope had at least six children: Mary (1821), Bridget (1823), Patrick (1825),  James (1826), Winifred (1838), and Kathryn.  Bridget was my great grandmother.  She immigrated to the US in 1847, possibly with her brothers Patrick and James.  She married Thomas Noonan (probably from Ballytoohey, Termonbarry, Roscommon) in Ireland or the US.  They had one son John, born in 1851.  At the time of her death in 1908, her siblings Patrick, James and Kathryn were still alive.  Patrick and James were living in Chicago and Kathryn in Ireland.  I have not been able to find any further information about them or their sisters Mary and Winifred.  I would appreciate receiving additional information on this family and their descendants.

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Hi

Thank you for your message. 

I have forwarded your request to a volunteer who may be able to assist or advise you. 

Some sites you may try are:

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml

The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

Irish Newspaper Archives: http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/

http://www.roscommonroots.com/  (a fee may apply) 

Kind regards,

Genealogy support. 

 

 

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Thanks very much for your suggestions.

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Illinois Lass:  Part 1

Cynthia O'Connor forwarded me your query. I had been away on vacation. I looked at the 1901 census data and found two Rogers records in the town of Loughglinn. Interestingly, one of the records is for an 86 year old Patrick Rogers who was a widower. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Loughglynn/Loughglinn_Town/1662804/

Since your Patrick was in Chicago, and his father would have been 100 or older in 1901, you probably need to consider that the Patrick in Loughglinn in the Griffiths data may have been the 86 year old in 1901 and not your great-great-grandfather. The other 1901 census record for Loughglinn was a Michael Rogers and possibly a relative.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Loughglynn/Loughglinn_Town/1662827/

 

Church records for Loughglinn go back to 1817. You can order the microfilm online from the Mormon Church. www.familysearch.org and have the film delivered to a local Family History Center in Illinois. Hopefully, there is one near you in Illinois. The film number is below (0989753) and the records are for the parish of Lisacul and Loughglinn.

Film Notes

Note Location Film/DGS
Baptisms, 1817-1826, 1829-1840; marriages, 1817-1827, 1836-1838, 1849-1858; deaths, 1849-1854, 1868-1900. Family History Library  BRITISH  Film 989753 Items 1 - 3
Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Illinois Lass:  Part 2

For some reason, I was not able to add more data to my initial message so I forwarded it to you and will add some more thoughts.

The Mormon site www.familysearch.org also has online index records for births, marriages and deaths starting in 1864 when civil registration began. Not all events were recorded. I would suggest that you look for marriage index records for Kathryn and Winifred who possibly were married 1864 or later. (Mary being born in 1821 was likely married before 1864.) Loughglinn was in the Castlereagh registreation district (the town is known as Castlerea today). If you find a index record, that looks promising, you need to write to the GRO www.groireland.ie for a copy of the record to see if it is your family member. A copy costs 4 euros and the GRO is very efficient. (I recently requested three marriage records and received them in about 10-12 days.) I belong to a paid subscription site and I will see if I can locate any index records and will advise.

Let me know if you have further questions.

Roger McDonnell

Phoenix MD

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Castlemore, I appreciate your comments.

I guess that there is no way of knowing if the Patrick Rogers in Griffins Valuation was my great, great, grandfather who probably would have been at least 56 at the time of Griffiths Valuation or the other Patrick Rogers in the 1901 census who who would have been about 41 in 1856.  It really doesn't matter; they probably were related.  However, it is fun thinking that my great, great grandfather collected tolls at a market because I love markets.

I have the christening records for my great grandmother and her siblings.  I was also at the church in Loughglinn last year.  I will be coming back this fall.  Do you have any suggestions for finding the graves of my great, great grandparents?  I would also like to find out what happened to her sisters who stayed in Ireland.   I am fairly certain that I checked on them when I was at the church although we were in a rush since it was late in the afternoon.  .

 

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Roger,

I only saw your second message after I had sent my response to the first.  That is an excellent idea to look at the civil records for my great grandmother's sisters.  I may also be able to find the dates of death for them and their parents.  Thanks so very much.

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Illinois Lass:

Regarding the graves for your great-great grandparents, I would contact the church before you go to see what information they can provide regarding graves. It is very unlikely that there would be headstones.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger,

 

What information is provided in the GRO death records?  Is there anything more than the person's name and the date and place of death?

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Illinois Lass:

 

I'm looking at a death record for my grandmother's younger sister who died at 18 days in 1891. You get date and place of death, name, sex, married or spinster, age, cause of death, informant with the location and relationship and finally date of registration.

Roger

 

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

That is great information.  I will definitely have to get death records for my ancestors.

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