Freeman family of tibohine.

Hi there

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McAlroy (orig. Mac Giolla Rua) has many spelling variations to be aware of including Gilroy and McIlroy.
https://www.sloinne.ie/surname/ga/mac-giolla-rua/

You may also want to familiarise yourself with all the variations for Freeman as well, especially if the know connection is Mayo.
https://www.sloinne.ie/?q=Freeman

Sounds like your Freemans probably come from a district on the Mayo-Roscommon border (that shifted in 1898). At the time of marriage Freeman's home farm was in Roscommon but if this place later became part of East Co. Mayo, 20th century family folklore would say it's in Mayo.

Your only link to the parish of Tibohine aka Loughlynn is for McAlroy not Freeman is that correct? Have you any other evidence that Tebocan is Tibohine? There was a RC George McAlroy and Mary Kelly baptising children there in the 1840s. But the records are patchy and no Annie.

Lots of Church of Ireland George McAlroys around Boyle.

Hi Rua,

Thanks for your help. I'm glad to see that like me you do genealogical research in the wee small hours!

I found my great grandmotherx2 Ann Freeman in 1881 as a widow living with her 4 children in Bolton, Lancs.  She said she was born in Dublin in 1847 and was a housekeeper. (I know that many Irish emigrants put the port they sailed from as their place of birth.) In 1891 she's there again  as Annie Freeman saying she's a dressmaker born in 1846 in Roscommon, Ireland. Her last entry is in 1911 working as a hawker (this ties in with what my father told me) and she gives her place of birth as Tebocan, Roscommon.

I had no idea to whom she was married. One John Freeman married an Ann Connolly locally, but this was the wrong couple. Then Michael Freeman popped up and his wife was Annie McAlroy.  Roman Catholic records are slightly more difficult to locate but last January I visited the local history department of Bolton Library and found the  marriage records of my grandparents, great grandparents and great grandparents x2. With my schoolgirl Latin i was able to discover that they married on 3rd May 1871 and that their fathers were Thomas Freeman and George McAlroy. I later bought a marriage certificate and discovered that both their fathers were deceased and both labourers.

Michael is on the 1871 census before his marriage, working as a labourer in Bolton and living as a lodger.  he's down as irish. He and  Annie had  2 children and then when she was pregnant with the third (how did she manage?) he was sentenced in March 1877 for stealing two clogs and  and given six weeks hard labour in Strangeways prison. He is listed as coming from Roscommon and his wife's name is given.  Michael fathers another child on his release from prison, but has died by may 1879. A hard life!

So all I know is that they came from Roscommon ( which might now be Mayo) I guessed Tibohine for Teboccan and I knew their were some Freeman families  living there., lived off the land and their father's names. If you can find any links to a Thomas Freeman. I'd be grateful.

Best wishes,

Chris.

HI Chris

I dont know if its the same Freeman Family But i have a Thomaas Freeman whos father was Patrick Freeman..They came from Loughglyn ,Liscull  Roscommon.and i think were Tenant Farmers in Tibohine or Corracoggil..Thomas's brother John Michael Freeman was my Gt Grandfather..There are records missing in the 1840s so i have only found  4 possible siblings..There is a large Freeman family in Roscommon.I have yet to work it all out but perhaps we have a connection.

Regards

Deb

Hi Deb,

Thanks for getting in touch with me.  I've been following with great interest all the recent developments that the wonderful volunteers on Ireland Reaching Out have helped you uncover about your Freeman family. Sadly, I feel your Thomas Freeman (christened @ 1836)  couldn't have been the father of my Michael Freeman (born 1849/50).  My great grandparents x2 Michael Freeman (father Thomas) and Annie McAlroy (father George) were married in Bolton, Lancashire, England in 1871.  On their wedding licence both fathers were named as labourers and deceased.  On the 1911 census Annie stated that she was born in Tebocan, Roscommon.  On the 1921 census it just says that she was born in Ireland. Very frustrating!

I guessed Tibohine might be the place.  All I know is that they came from near Mayo and worked the land.  My dad's great aunts used to go back to Ireland as children according to him.  I think I'm going to have to resort to cluster genealogy of relationships in Bolton in the 19th century to discuss their place of origin in Ireland.  Wish me luck.

Best wishes,

 

Chris.

Hello Deb and Chris 

My last name is Rutledge 

My Rutledges all resided tibohine, creevy, Lisacul, corragoggil, loughglynn, and breanamore...others in Elphin..we had Freeman as spouses and connexs to Rutledge in mayo and fermanagh/tyrone. Some names associated with us in same Roscommon places are McCanns, O'Neil, Brennan, Walder, Cox, Seery...did u know Seery is Freeman....plus aghamore co.mayo Freeman match Freeman in dna-y from tibohine according to Peter Freeman.My Mathew Freeman is connected to us and my Rutledges for generations were flax farmers.

I presently live in Toronto Canada and only just discovered Freeman marriage and baptisms in loughglynn..RC records. Corracoggil north and south standing out.

Would like to know more on Freemans from these areas.

Look forward to any convos!

Paul Rutledge 

 

 

Hi Deb

 

You may want to go may 8 1847 in nli.ie catholic Boyle Roscommon site for joan freeman Patrick and joann dogherty freeman..it's there..I found it.

Witnesses hard to read...i think it says workhouse

Kind regards...potentially your freeman walder Rutledge cousin 

Paul...Toronto 

Here's a pic of freeman baptism in boyle