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Coynes from Sandfield (Kilmeane, Killinvoy)

Roscommon

Hello, everybody--new member here.

My Coyne family, which I've traced back to Brooklyn, New York in the 1840s, is genetically related to the Coyne family that lived in Sandfield House, Killinvoy, and our Irish DNA cousins list their farthest known ancestor as James Coyne of Sandfield (1766-1850).  My farthest known Coyne ancestor is Thomas Coyne, b. about 1830 in Ireland.  He emigrated to New York with his brother John, sister Catherine and mother Catherine--the mother probably had the surname of Browne, and her husband was probably a Patrick Coyne.  Thomas and John were painters, and they were in business togethr for a while.  I'm looking for something that will point me to a paper link between the American Coynes and the Irish.  There is some speculation that our ancestor may have been a son of the Sandfield James who married Mary Lyster (James had three known sons who stayed in Ireland, and another James who almost certainly went to New Jersey.)  We also have genetic matches to descendants of this second James.  There seems to be a missing generation, Sandfield James' parents.  Various records list a James Coyne, Esq who was born around 1704 and lived in Clogher, Killukin.  The Lyster family was well established in that general area, I think.  Would it be likely that this James Coyne was the father of the Sandfield James, and of a possible brother named Ferdinand?  (The name runs through the Roscommon Coyne famiilies like a red flag, but there aren't any that I can find in the family of the Clogher James.)  What records might help me find some more Coyne descendants in the early to mid-18th century?  I've checked Betham and got some there, and later RootsIreland has been a good source.

Thanks for any ideas,

Terry (Theresa) Coyne Strasser

 

Terry

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Terry:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

You don't mention religious denomination but I will assume Roman Catholic. Unfortunately, the RC records for the RC parish of Killinvoy/Knockcroghery/Rahara/ St.Johns begin in 1841 which does not help with your search for a paper trail.

The 1827 Tithe listings for Co. Roscommon show a number of Coyne records including James from Sandfield and as you indicated a few other James Coyne records.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=coyne&firstname=&county=Roscommon&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

I'm not aware of any 18th century records that may assist your search.

Have you contacted the library in Roscommon town to see if they can recommend any materials in their possession?

http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Community/Library/?fbclid=IwAR1Prt42qgJop8IY0nF5JHCw-BkxnmLO2grh_KVkqfbC2fXZ-i382j8XgoA

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks for the welcome and for the suggestion about the Roscommon Library, Roger.  As to religious affiliation, some Coynes in Ireland were Catholics and some were C of I--and my Brooklyn Coynes were Catholic and the New Jersey Coynes were Protestant.  Some in Ireland were both.  James Coyne of Sandfield was the Clerk of the C of I until he was on his deathbed, and then he was converted to Catholicism.  Declan Coyne of the South Roscommon Singers mentioned in his book that that deathbed conversion became the subject of a local ballad!  James Coyne of Clogher was a documented  convert from Catholicism to the C of I.

Terry Coyne Strasser

Terry

Terry - Are you related to Declan Coyne?

petekain@comcast.net

Yes, we are genetically related (DNA cousins), but we haven't yet found our most recent common ancestor, who is at least five generations back.

Terry

I had the honor of meeting him in 2016. We thought his wife's family was friends of our ancestors' descendants, with no living descendants in Roscommon. Last year, DNA told us we were related to his wife's family. Thus far, we have not been able to nail down the connection.

petekain@comcast.net

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