Ardcarne Church

https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/buildings-da… It would appear that Ardcarne church was in the ownership of The Church of Ireland since the early 1600's.

If you can provide names and dates including maiden names then I will try to help you as there are 6151 marriage records for Cootehill in the civil index

The records I have found.......Thomas Boyd and Annae Killalea  Marriage 15 September 1856   Microfilm 04612.01  Page 177    Cootehall; County of Roscommon, Diocese of Elphin

Yes, I have the entry, my sight is not good so I had to look it up.

 

 Son Michael Boyd christened 28th August 1859 in Killucan Roscommon    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633946#page/44/mode/1up ;   Killucan | Microfilm 04606 / 07

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Son Thomas Boyd christened 14th December 1861 in Killucan

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Son Joannem  (John) christened 28th June 1857  Killucan

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I came across this entry   It appears to have information on your family. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/M5GR-1ZZ ;  

Annae Killalea

Female17 December 1838 – 3 July 1921 •M5GR-1ZZ

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All of the above are correct.  My 2 x's Great Grandparents immigrated (in different years) to USA with their 3 first born sons in the mid 1860's and then my great grandmother, Anna, was their fourth child being the first born in USA in 1868. 

They were Roman Catholics in USA and by all indications practiced that faith in Ireland.  Having just been given the information that they were married in Ardcarne Church, I was trying to confirm the religion practiced in the church during the mid 1800's.   If it was a protestant church, Church of Ireland, during this time,  than I am not certain that this latest information is correct.

Really appreciate your help in this matter.

Mbwg46,

My great great grandparents were married in the Ardcarne/Cootehall Roman Catholic parish in 1866. I was fortunate to visit there in 2022, and met with two current relations who are descendants of those who remained in Ireland. I believe that this is the same church your relations were married in. 

There is an Ardcarne COI church as well, so perhaps that is the confusion. The paid site, Roots Ireland, shows their marriage:

15 Apr 1856 Thomas Boyde & Anne Kilalea, both RC, sponsors were Andrew Spellman & Mary Kilalea. Parent's names are not recorded. 

Regards,

 

Carolyn, thank you for the information about your Catholic ancestors from Cootehall, Ireland.   Is the church shown below the church in which your family members were married?

Mbwg46,

That photo is of the Ardcarne church (COI), and according to wikipedia, is still in use today.  There is a good article on this site from Jan 2000 about the RC parish of Ardcarne that you can search for and read. If you are in search of the building, I'm not exactly sure of its location....the place I went to was the RC Ardcarne cemetery which is adjacent to this church, so I did see this COI church. The Roots Ireland record shows your relations were married in the RC Chapel of Cootehall, and that is the same chapel my relations were married in. 

Regards,

 

Again, your responses are really appreciated.   May I ask for interpretation of your reference  " COI "?

Church of Ireland.....an autonomous province of the Anglican Communion. 

As  you stated......"My great great grandparents were married in the Ardcarne/Cootehall Roman Catholic parish in 1866. I was fortunate to visit there in 2022, and met with two current relations who are descendants of those who remained in Ireland. I believe that this is the same church your relations were married in. "  

 

Carolyn, Do you happen to have a photo of the Ardcarne/Cootehall Roman Catholic parish church you visited? 

 

Barbara G

Carolyn, I am really being a pest but I am still confused as to whether the portrait that I shared with you is in fact the church where my ancestors were married.   The portrait was given to me by a cousin who visited Ireland in 2023 and was led to believe that this photographed church is the correct building.

As  you stated......"My great great grandparents were married in the Ardcarne/Cootehall Roman Catholic parish in 1866. I was fortunate to visit there in 2022, and met with two current relations who are descendants of those who remained in Ireland. I believe that this is the same church your relations were married in. " 

Carolyn, Do you happen to have a photo of the Ardcarne/Cootehall Roman Catholic parish church you visited in 2022?   As I believe you are correct that our ancestors were married in the very same building (albeit years apart), perhaps I can finally come to a conclusion about the appropriateness of the church photograph I have been given.

 

Barbara G

Barbara,

You are not being a pest! :) I too was a bit confused about that building because I did take a photo of myself in front of it with my Irish relations back in 2022.....we took a lot of photos together....it is the Church of Ireland church, so not the Roman Catholic chapel of Ardcarne/Cootehall parish. I emailed my relatives about the photo, and that's when I discovered my error. When I said I was at the RC chapel, I was incorrect. I apologize for that. I do not know if that still exists. Are you hoping to go and visit the building? From your reply on 20 Mar, it seemed that you were questioning whether or not they were Catholic when in Ireland...I'd say yes to that. Hope this clears things up!

Regards,

Carolyn,   I do certainly appreciate the confirmation of Catholicism.  We visited Ireland in 2019 and I was able to locate paternal relatives. Unfortunately, family illness has kept me from returning to the Emerald Isle but a third cousin was able to travel there in 2023.   I introduced them to our Irish relatives and they also received a strong welcome.   On a "drive around" to local sites, the Irish relatives took them to the photographed Church and told them it was where Thomas Boyd and Annae Killilea were married in 1856.   The current designation of Church of Ireland was confusing to me as I knew their 1st three children were all baptized Catholic....so COI made little sense to me.   The USA cousins gifted us with this lovely canvas print of the church but I hesitate to display and "pass on" to family members a mistaken item.   It is soooo easy to attach incorrect data to ones' history!

The Catholic vs. Protestant possibility is interesting in that, during our 2019 visit, relatives mentioned that the BOYD family originally came to Ireland from Scotland during the 1600's and were part of the English plan to destroy the Catholic population.  Her comment was but "we fooled them and became Catholic instead"!

My email is mbgjag@gmail.com and would be pleased to communicate with you directly if interested.   Thank you again for all your information and patience.

Barbara