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I am searching for any information on my 2XGreatgrandfather Thomas Grinley (b. 1850)and his parents, Patrick and Ellen (Kenney). I believe Thomas traveled to America about 1866 with his older brother, Patrick and Patrick'snew wife, Catherine (Kelly). I have a document stating that Patrick and Catherine were married on March 8, 1866 in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Ballymoe, in the District of Glenamaddy; Patrick is listed as 31 years old,a widower,from Cloonadarragh(?) and his father, Patrick is noted as deceased; Catherine Kelly is listed as 21 years old, a spinster, from Corliskea, and her father as Owen Kelly. On arriving in Boston, Patrick and Thomas took out a notice searching for their sister, Maria (Grinley) Shee.

Thanks in advance for any info,

Mike Grinley

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Mike:

Cloonadarragh and Corliskea townlands are both shown to be in Drumatemple civil parish in Co. Galway which borders Drumatemple civil parish in Co. Roscommon. If you look on Google Maps, Cloonadarragh is just to the north of Ballymoe town and Corliskea is the next townland over to the west from Cloonadarragh.

I looked in Griffiths for Grinleys in both Galway and Roscommon with no success. I did find a George Grinley in the 1832 Tithes listings www.titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie  He was in Snipe Hill in Ballintober parish not far from Drumatemple and Oran parishes.

There does not appear to be any church records available online in Roots Ireland. The Church in Oran (Cloverhill) appears to have records starting in 1845. Cloverhill church is under the church in Cams and Ballinaheglish.

CLOVERHILL (ORAN)

 Very Rev Francis Glennon PP
 Cams, Roscommon
 Tel: 090 6626275
 Rev Thomas Leahy (SPS) CC
 Ballinaheglish, Co Roscommon
 Tel: 090 6662229

I did find two civil death index records which may be of value. There was an Anne Grinley who died in 1906 in the Glennamaddy registration district. She may have been single or married a Grinley. ironically, I searched the 1901 census and could not find her. The second record is an 1864 death index record for a male Grinley who died at birth. This is speculation but did Patrick's first wife die in childbirth? Copies of borh records can be obtained from the General Register Office.

Let me know if you have questions.

Roger McDonnell

 

Name: Anne Grinley
Event Type: Death
Event Date: Oct - Dec 1906
Event Place: Glennamaddy, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1906
Registration District: Glennamaddy
Age: 71
Birth Year (Estimated): 1835
Mother's Maiden Name:  
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 156

 

Name: Male Grinley
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 1864
Event Place: Glennamaddy, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: 1864
Registration District: Glennamaddy
Age: 0
Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Mother's Maiden Name:  
Volume Number: 9
Page Number: 210
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Hello Roger,

Thank you, so much, for your speedy reply.

I had recently come across a reference to a George Grinley of Snipe Hill but could not discern the locale. Now I know it's close and a possible lead. I had no knowledge of Anne Grinley, so this may be another good option to investigate, so thanks again.

It's puzzling, with a name that's not too common, that I'm not able to pinpoint my direct lineage. It was exciting to find Patrick's marriage documentation and one might assume the family was from Ballymoe, but Patrick may have moved there, later, from his boyhood home. 

I'll certainly contact the two churches you mentioned and if you have any other thoughts on direction, I'd be most interested.

Much obliged,

Mike

IrelandXO member

Hello Roger,

Thank you, so much, for your speedy reply.

I had recently come across a reference to a George Grinley of Snipe Hill but could not discern the locale. Now I know it's close and a possible lead. I had no knowledge of Anne Grinley, so this may be another good option to investigate, so thanks again.

It's puzzling, with a name that's not too common, that I'm not able to pinpoint my direct lineage. It was exciting to find Patrick's marriage documentation and one might assume the family was from Ballymoe, but Patrick may have moved there, later, from his boyhood home. 

I'll certainly contact the two churches you mentioned and if you have any other thoughts on direction, I'd be most interested.

Much obliged,

Mike

IrelandXO member

Hello Roger,

Thank you, so much, for your speedy reply.

I had recently come across a reference to a George Grinley of Snipe Hill but could not discern the locale. Now I know it's close and a possible lead. I had no knowledge of Anne Grinley, so this may be another good option to investigate, so thanks again.

It's puzzling, with a name that's not too common, that I'm not able to pinpoint my direct lineage. It was exciting to find Patrick's marriage documentation and one might assume the family was from Ballymoe, but Patrick may have moved there, later, from his boyhood home. 

I'll certainly contact the two churches you mentioned and if you have any other thoughts on direction, I'd be most interested.

Much obliged,

Mike

IrelandXO member

Hello Mike,

This is very interesting.    We always assumed that maybe the spelling of the name is incorrect. As I have found almost every Grinley here in the states can be traced back to Patrick and Ellen.  I am very interested  any further details you may obtain.  I have been reseaching back to Ireland with no success also.. By the way hello cuz  would love to chat sometime email me @ Gemk97@aol.com

 

Patrick and Catharine's Children are:

Thomas,Ellen,Catherine, Bridget and Anne....(not sure if there were others but I know Thomas was born in Ireland Ironically  in 1866   ...Thomas is my greatgrand father x2 he to had a son named Patrick J Grinley who is my great grandfather) 

After coming to the states they lived on Lincoln Street in Brighton,Mass... Don't know if any of this info helps but figured where there is documentation of Anne there maybe other leads using these other names.  Do we know if Patrick and Ellen had any children other than Patrick and Thomas?   I am wondering if Anne is a sister... thank you for clearing that up, that they were brothers. It was hard to distinct especially where the names Patrick and Thomas had been used in almost every generation.  I also have a question for you Mike.  Did your grandfather Thomas also have a son named Patrick?  The reason for asking. In 1905 there was a Patrick J Grinley who was allegedly murdered by Boston City Counselman Donnelly.  In the street in the south end.   3 mo's prior Patrick was arrrested for rioting  for Irish/Italian civil rights.  The murder happened on the day he was released from Deer Island..  Original court documents show that there were witness's who accused Donnelly of assulting Grinley causing him to fall and hit his head on the pavement..  Later the witness's changed their staement and said that Grinley was drunk,fell and hit his head, Donnelly was aquitted.... Where we are almost positive this is a relative  I thought it would an interesting tid bit for you.

Hope to hear from you

Meg

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