Looking for Patrick McNulty , Denis and Owen (sons) Ballyrush Monaghan

Thankyou Pat,

I know these McNultys are difficult to locate.  I dont have any record of them from Ireland, just info from documents out here.

Patrick is the key person to locate. On his death certificate, it said his wife was Jean McKenna.  He has 2 possible birth dates. his death certificate said he was 99 in 1988, but on his ship passage list, it said he was 45 in 1864, (which I tend to believe), making his birth date 1819. His son Denis' birthdate was 1836 (cal from his death certificate), which makes Patrick  17 at his birth? which is possible. And son Owen was listed as 14 on the Ship, but his name was crossed out, so not sure if he died or didnt board the ship.

 There were mentions of Mckennas in the tithe records, all of whom seem to have had substantial holdings.  

Mick McKenna in Dromsennetts Monaghan

Owen Edward Mick and Pat in lower Dromboat

 James McNulty  Miskish More and Big Magoney Innishkeen  Monaghan

Hugh McNulty      "             "              "          "{           "                        "

Pat McKenna       "            "               "          "            "                          "

Denis  Mcnalty   Knocnegarney and Dromkerny       "                        " 

Stephen McNalty   "                                       "          "                         " (stephen is not a family name)

James McKenna      "                             "                  "                        "

The same McKennas seem to appear a lot, and as they are in the same area as the McNultys, it could be Jean came from one of these families. I wondered whether it would be worth pursuing the McNultys as possible relations to Patrick.  If you know a way that would be great.  I can have a go through Ancestry.

Also there was one lot of McNultys on the flax growers list  for Donegal. I know it is a long shot, but I think they must have at some time come from the land of the McNultys on the west of Ireland. There were family names Denis ( Raphoe) Hugh (Taughboyne) Patrick and and Owen ( Inishmacsaint).

I feel like this moves things along a bit, particularly the proximity of the Mckennas to the McNultys in the tithe records.

Thankyou for your assistance

Christine Sanger

 

 

Pat, I have been referring to a Jean McKenna, It should be Ann McKenna

Apologies

 

Christine

Hi Christine,

Like so many families from this area, the McNalty's from the townlands that you have listed from the Tithe Applotment Books went to the United States, thats why they don't appear on Griffith's Valuation.

Also its worth noting that the information recorded on any certificate is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant, i.e., the person who provided the details at the time of registration.  It is not uncommon to find that details on certificates can be incorrect, or even details recorded as unknown, depending upon how well the informant knew the person in question.

Maggie McKenna, Carrickmacross.

Christine,

Like so many families from this area, the McNalty's from the townlands that you have listed from the Tithe Applotment Books went to the United States, thats why they don't appear on Griffith's Valuation.  You can check that for yourself on your Ancestry website.

Also worth noting that the information recorded on any certificate is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant, i.e., the person who provided the details at the time of registration.  It is not uncommon to find that details on certificates can be incorrect, or even details recorded as unknown, depending upon how well the informant knew the person in question.

Maggie McKenna, Carrickmacross.

Thankyou Maggie,

I am trying to find any family of Patrick McNulty, brothers parents etc., or his spouse Ann McKenna's family.

I couldnt link any of the above to Patrick on Ancestry.  Do you have more information? 

Also were the McKennas all related in that general area? 

Thankyou

Christine