Leysborough near Aghabog.

Shane, Thankyou for that information and the link to the map. Makes sense  to me now: Annaghmakerig House - would never have connected the two names.  Thanks again.

Sandie

Hello, Sandie. I was wondering if you had much information on William Ley? My ancestors were tenant of the Ker estate (Ker of Newbliss). They lived in a townland called "Carn" in Aghabog.  However, a record of the rents on the Ker estate from 1817 indicates that their lease ran for the life of William ley plus 25 years....or something close to that. I am wondering if maybe the Leys sold the townland to the Kers?? any information, no matter how small, would be appreciated. For example, my GrGrGR Grandfather emmigrated in 1851. The famine is the most likely reason for this, but I wonder if the date of William Leys death (plus 25 years) may have brought an end to their lease and required a move?  It's just a theory, but you never know. I'd also like to know more about the Ley family in the area just because I like hearing about the families back then.

Thanks very much,

Ted

 

Hello

I am a descendant of a Wiiliam Lee who went to Canada in 1819. He landed in New York where he says he is a farmer from Aughnamullen Parish, Monaghan. He was born in 1758, marries Nancy ? and has children Nathan b.1791, Ralph b.1796, John b.1800, Joseph b. 1803. I believe Leysborough is close to Augnamullen so I am wondering if there is a connection.

Roger

have you seen this page about the Lees of monaghan? http://homepage.eircom.net/~leeea/EmanuellMonaghan.htm

Hello

Just for your info; Annamakrig House is known as the Tyrone Guthrie Centre, a retreat for artist writiers and musicians. 

Here is a link to the site- http://www.tyroneguthrie.ie/about/venue

Hi Sandie,

Am ever so glad to be receiving messages about your search for Leysborough near Aghabog.  I wish you success.

I think your message may have come as a result to some degree or other of my original request for help searching for information on my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  Unfortunately, I am just as stuck now in regard to getting further back in time than 11 Feb 1795.

Your request prompted me to return to searching for anything that might be helpful to you. 

Initially, that took me to the Drumallan area to the northeast of Newbliss, to the area of Drumullan and a lake known nowadays as Amagose Lough AND to an area east southeast of Newbliss and a lake known as Feagh Lough.  Nearby Feagh Lough, I see on Google Maps referencees to Corlougharoo Stud and Patrick J. McGuirk and Tyrone Guthrie Centre (because of its proximity to Annaghmakerug Lough).  Addresses and other contactt information to those three places are fairly easy to find, some actually on Google Maps. 

[In the preceding paragraph, you see the search terms in my line of focus:  Aghabog, Drum, large lakes (Amagose Lough, Feagh Lough, Drumate Lough, Annaghmakerug Lough and Long Lough)]

Then, I looked for Drum and found it, some ?6 miles south of Newbliss and a nearby lake there known as Long Lough - which might be the same Long Lake you speak of in your recent inquiry.  In that Drum area, I found references to at least four people who should not be to difficult to locate and contact.  Primarily, I refer to Mervyn Reilly (Worshipful Master of Aughareagh LOL 1555.  I also found  https://www.facebook.com/DrumAccordianBand   which might give you direct and quick access to further informationn about the Drum area.

At https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/protestant-drum-is-still-beating-strong-in-border-village-1.2748306  AND  https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/welcome-to-…; you will see referencess to this Mervyn Reilly and at least his musical activities in and around the area of Drum.  With that Facebook URL, you should be able to contact Mervyn (or others)  who might be able to help you in your research. 

Other than this, I doubt I can be of any assistance to you in your search down your anbcestral traills to William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough.  But I have tried!  That is because I have no first-hand knowledge of genealogy-related skills applicable to this area of County Monaghan.  In fact, I live nearly 7142 km / 4438 statute miles to the southwest of that area, on an island in the northeast Pacific Ocean.  As my first and heretofore only post on this website indicated, I was and am still very interested in my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret. They, too, left Ireland in late December 1848 or very early in January 1849 and, via Liverpool, arrived in New York City on 24 Jan 1849 on the sailing vessel "New World".  

One additional thought:  might your "William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough, Monaghan, married to Eiza Lucas (William and Mary Lucas)" be related in any way to the Lucas Family dynasty referred to in . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castleshane,_County_Monaghan? ; Is it just concidence or is it more, that the names of Francis and Lucas are also a central part of the Lucas Family dynasty and their seminal influence in the Castleshane area (some 6 km / 3+ miles east southeast of Monaghan City?:

"Francis Lucas, eldest son of Henry Lucas and his second wife Alyce Bradocke. Francis was born circa 1553. His descendants held Castle Shane (spelled as two separate words), the country house on the Castle Shane Estate, for many generations. The original castle on the site may have been late medieval.

However, the castle was largely rebuilt for Francis Lucas, probably in the late Elizabethan style, around 1591," but ruins of the original building might still be seen near Castleshane.

Finally, the Clogher Historical Society (Cumann Seanchais Chlochair) might be a useful contact for you.  At least one of the people listed on their website has been very earnest in trying to help me in my research into the Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  SEE  http://www.clogherhistory.ie/index.html ;

I'll stay alert to further information and success in your search.

John

 

Hi Sandie,

Am ever so glad to be receiving messages about your search for Leysborough near Aghabog.  I wish you success.

I think your message may have come as a result to some degree or other of my original request for help searching for information on my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  Unfortunately, I am just as stuck now in regard to getting further back in time than 11 Feb 1795.

Your request prompted me to return to searching for anything that might be helpful to you. 

Initially, that took me to the Drumallan area to the northeast of Newbliss, to the area of Drumullan and a lake known nowadays as Amagose Lough AND to an area east southeast of Newbliss and a lake known as Feagh Lough.  Nearby Feagh Lough, I see on Google Maps referencees to Corlougharoo Stud and Patrick J. McGuirk and Tyrone Guthrie Centre (because of its proximity to Annaghmakerug Lough).  Addresses and other contactt information to those three places are fairly easy to find, some actually on Google Maps. 

[In the preceding paragraph, you see the search terms in my line of focus:  Aghabog, Drum, large lakes (Amagose Lough, Feagh Lough, Drumate Lough, Annaghmakerug Lough and Long Lough)]

Then, I looked for Drum and found it, some ?6 miles south of Newbliss and a nearby lake there known as Long Lough - which might be the same Long Lake you speak of in your recent inquiry.  In that Drum area, I found references to at least four people who should not be to difficult to locate and contact.  Primarily, I refer to Mervyn Reilly (Worshipful Master of Aughareagh LOL 1555.  I also found  https://www.facebook.com/DrumAccordianBand   which might give you direct and quick access to further informationn about the Drum area.

At https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/protestant-drum-is-still-beating-strong-in-border-village-1.2748306  AND  https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/welcome-to-…; you will see referencess to this Mervyn Reilly and at least his musical activities in and around the area of Drum.  With that Facebook URL, you should be able to contact Mervyn (or others)  who might be able to help you in your research. 

Other than this, I doubt I can be of any assistance to you in your search down your anbcestral traills to William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough.  But I have tried!  That is because I have no first-hand knowledge of genealogy-related skills applicable to this area of County Monaghan.  In fact, I live nearly 7142 km / 4438 statute miles to the southwest of that area, on an island in the northeast Pacific Ocean.  As my first and heretofore only post on this website indicated, I was and am still very interested in my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret. They, too, left Ireland in late December 1848 or very early in January 1849 and, via Liverpool, arrived in New York City on 24 Jan 1849 on the sailing vessel "New World".  

One additional thought:  might your "William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough, Monaghan, married to Eiza Lucas (William and Mary Lucas)" be related in any way to the Lucas Family dynasty referred to in . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castleshane,_County_Monaghan? ; Is it just concidence or is it more, that the names of Francis and Lucas are also a central part of the Lucas Family dynasty and their seminal influence in the Castleshane area (some 6 km / 3+ miles east southeast of Monaghan City?:

"Francis Lucas, eldest son of Henry Lucas and his second wife Alyce Bradocke. Francis was born circa 1553. His descendants held Castle Shane (spelled as two separate words), the country house on the Castle Shane Estate, for many generations. The original castle on the site may have been late medieval.

However, the castle was largely rebuilt for Francis Lucas, probably in the late Elizabethan style, around 1591," but ruins of the original building might still be seen near Castleshane.

Finally, the Clogher Historical Society (Cumann Seanchais Chlochair) might be a useful contact for you.  At least one of the people listed on their website has been very earnest in trying to help me in my research into the Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  SEE  http://www.clogherhistory.ie/index.html ;

I'll stay alert for further information and your eventual success in your search.

John

 

Hi Sandie,

Am ever so glad to be receiving messages about your search for Leysborough near Aghabog.  I wish you success.

I think your message may have come as a result to some degree or other of my original request for help searching for information on my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  Unfortunately, I am just as stuck now in regard to getting further back in time than 11 Feb 1795.

Your request prompted me to return to searching for anything that might be helpful to you. 

Initially, that took me to the Drumallan area to the northeast of Newbliss, to the area of Drumullan and a lake known nowadays as Amagose Lough AND to an area east southeast of Newbliss and a lake known as Feagh Lough.  Nearby Feagh Lough, I see on Google Maps referencees to Corlougharoo Stud and Patrick J. McGuirk and Tyrone Guthrie Centre (because of its proximity to Annaghmakerug Lough).  Addresses and other contactt information to those three places are fairly easy to find, some actually on Google Maps. 

[In the preceding paragraph, you see the search terms in my line of focus:  Aghabog, Drum, large lakes (Amagose Lough, Feagh Lough, Drumate Lough, Annaghmakerug Lough and Long Lough)]

Then, I looked for Drum and found it, some ?6 miles south of Newbliss and a nearby lake there known as Long Lough - which might be the same Long Lake you speak of in your recent inquiry.  In that Drum area, I found references to at least four people who should not be to difficult to locate and contact.  Primarily, I refer to Mervyn Reilly (Worshipful Master of Aughareagh LOL 1555.  I also found  https://www.facebook.com/DrumAccordianBand   which might give you direct and quick access to further informationn about the Drum area.

At https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/protestant-drum-is-still-beating-strong-in-border-village-1.2748306  AND  https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/welcome-to-d... you will see referencess to this Mervyn Reilly and at least his musical activities in and around the area of Drum.  With that Facebook URL, you should be able to contact Mervyn (or others)  who might be able to help you in your research. 

Other than this, I doubt I can be of any assistance to you in your search down your anbcestral traills to William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough.  But I have tried!  That is because I have no first-hand knowledge of genealogy-related skills applicable to this area of County Monaghan.  In fact, I live nearly 7142 km / 4438 statute miles to the southwest of that area, on an island in the northeast Pacific Ocean.  As my first and heretofore only post on this website indicated, I was and am still very interested in my Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret. They, too, left Ireland in late December 1848 or very early in January 1849 and, via Liverpool, arrived in New York City on 24 Jan 1849 on the sailing vessel "New World".  

One additional thought:  might your "William (Francis) Ley of Leysborough, Monaghan, married to Eiza Lucas (William and Mary Lucas)" be related in any way to the Lucas Family dynasty referred to in . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castleshane,_County_Monaghan?  Is it just concidence or is it more, that the names of Francis and Lucas are also a central part of the Lucas Family dynasty and their seminal influence in the Castleshane area (some 6 km / 3+ miles east southeast of Monaghan City?:

"Francis Lucas, eldest son of Henry Lucas and his second wife Alyce Bradocke. Francis was born circa 1553. His descendants held Castle Shane (spelled as two separate words), the country house on the Castle Shane Estate, for many generations. The original castle on the site may have been late medieval.

However, the castle was largely rebuilt for Francis Lucas, probably in the late Elizabethan style, around 1591," but ruins of the original building might still be seen near Castleshane.

Finally, the Clogher Historical Society (Cumann Seanchais Chlochair) might be a useful contact for you.  At least one of the people listed on their website has been very earnest in trying to help me in my research into the Niblocks in the Listroar and Corlongford area southwest of Clontibret.  SEE  http://www.clogherhistory.ie/index.html 

I'll stay alert for further information and your eventual success in your search.

John

 

William Francis Ley and Eliza Lucas were my ggg grandparents.

Denise Gillespie