Risbon/Rispin

Hi Ashley,

Could you provide approx date of birth for Patrick? Any other info, like siblings' names, children's names?

Thanks.

Patrick Rispin looks to be born around 1814to17, I have seen conflicting dates. It looks like his parents were James Rispin and Sarah ( Jourdan). Patrick came to the US August of 1840 and his name was logged as Risban and later as Risbon. It looks as though he came to the US with 2 siblings possibly? James and Jane since they were all in their 20s when they arrived here. He married Mary Jane Cook in 1843 in Pennsylvania. I have the family history here in the states but before he arrived here and any family in Ireland we never found further than knowing Patrick came from County Meath.

I was not going to add to this request.  I did some research yesterday, but threw it away.  I have completed the searches quickly again.  These facts come from the Ireland Tithes and the 1850 and 1860 US Censuses.   They look as though they may add some background.  (unable to upload either file or jpegs)  I will let you draw your own conclusions.  I have no background on this family.   Notes pasted  :

Ireland Tithes

Rispin    Silvester               Bailis      Athlumney           Meath   1833

Rispin    Peter     Clonmore            Kildalkey              Meath   1833

Rishin    Andw     Cloonamore       Kildalkey              Meath   1833

Rishin                   Cloonamore       Kildalkey              Meath   1833

Rishin    John       Cloonamore       Kildalkey              Meath   1833

 

1850 Census

Mary C Wristband

United States Census, 1850          

Allegheny, Blair, Pennsylvania, United States

 

Allegheny, Blair, Pennsylvania

Mary C Wristband

              

Female Age:        3

House Number:  389

Birth Year (Estimated):   

1847

Birthplace:         

Pennsylvania

Household           Role       Sex         Age        Birthplace

Patrick Wristband                            Male      35           Ireland

Mary J Wristband                            Female  22           Pennsylvania

Patrick Wristband                            Male      8             Pennsylvania

Peter Wristband                Male      5             Pennsylvania

Mary C Wristband                           Female  3             Pennsylvania

Eliza J Wristband                              Female  0             Pennsylvania

 

James Wristband

United States Census, 1850          

Event Place (Original):     Juniata, Blair, Pennsylvania

Name:   James Wristband

Age:       45

               Birth Year (Estimated):    1805

Birthplace:         

Ireland

Household           Role       Sex         Age        Birthplace

James Wristband                             Male      45           Ireland

Jane Wristband                 Female  25           Ireland

Mary Wristband                Female  11           Ireland

Bridget Wristband                           Female  10           Pennsylvania

Rosanna Wristband                         Female  6             Pennsylvania

Peter Wristband                Male      4             Pennsylvania

John Wristband                 Male      1             Pennsylvania

 

 

1860 Census

 

Patrick Risband

Event Place:        Clearfield Township, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States

              

Patrick Risband 

MaleAge:             46

Birth Year (Estimated):    1814           Birthplace:     Ireland

Household           Role       Sex         Age        Birthplace

Patrick Risband                 Male      46           Ireland

Mary J Risband                  Female  30           Pennsylvania

Patrick Risband                 Male      17           Pennsylvania

Peter Risband                    Male      15           Pennsylvania

Mary C Risband                 Female  13           Pennsylvania

Eliza Risband                      Female  10           Pennsylvania

Amanda Risband                              Female  7             Pennsylvania

Julia Risband                      Female  4             Pennsylvania

Thomas Risband                              Male      3             Pennsylvania

 

Special Paste

This group did not leave until after 1850 and are tied by Allegheny.

 

Rose Risband

Event Place:        Allegheny Township, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States             

FemaleAge:         16

Birth Year (Estimated):    1844

Birthplace:          Ireland

Household           Role       Sex         Age        Birthplace

John Risband                     Male      46           Ireland

Elizabeth Risband                            Female  49           Ireland

Peter Risband                    Male      23           Ireland

Anna Risband                     Female  17           Ireland

Rose Risband                     Female  16           Ireland

Elizabeth Risband                            Female  10           Ireland

Thomas Risband                              Male      7             Pennsylvania

Thank you

Ashley,
Here’s a transcription of James’s baptism—in Co. Louth, not Meath.
Church Baptism Record
Name:James Rispin
Date of Birth:

Date of Baptism:17-Oct-1810
Address:
Parish/District:KILSARAN
Gender:Unknown
CountyCo. Louth
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James Rispin
Mother:Sarah Jordon
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Thom Mullan
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:M Jordon?
Notes:
/ /
© 2020 Copyright Louth County Library
www.rootsireland.ie
There is also a Christopher, bap. 1809, and an 1807 marriage record for James and Sarah at rootsireland.
Any questions, please feel free to email glanvil3@aol.com.

Following up on the information Patricia has provided, it would appear that a James Rispin and a Sarah Jordan were married, either to each other or to someone else in the period around 1810 in Co Louth.  It is possible a Patrick Rispin was born in the year 1810.  The area of Ardee was mentioned as the location of a James Rispin ( in Tithes).

I have come back to this request accidentally tonight.  I will attach a file of search material, some of which might be a little difficult to understand.  I have done a further investigation, but have finished off the copied file. At the bottom of the first page, I have pasted a copied Patrick Rispin life outline from the site,  My Heritage.  I cannot assume that this is not your own genealogy, but provide it anyway.  I omitted to point out that the first list ( Page 1)   are all the possibilities of RISPINS in IRELAND in the TITHE APPLOTMENT RECORDS of 1820-1834.  Very few indeed.  Yet the name is apparently quite numerous in the UK in the 20th Century.    There were 25 RISPIN births in Ireland from 1810 - 1820.  Rispen returns 25, but they may be the same 25.  Risban is a name that does not occur at all.

A follow-up  :   The 25 births for all of Ireland 1810 - 1820 ;  16 are in Louth ; 9 are in Meath

Good afternoon,

I'm quite excited to happen upon this site and find people researching this family. Patrick was my 3x great grandfather, his son Patrick my link, and he's been slightly difficult to track down, and there's a lot of misinformation attached to his name. I hope I can help with the research and get a few things cleared up regarding his story. I have a few questions and then a record to share that I found that would be great if it were some sort of link to Patrick and his family. But first, a few questions:

I've seen the names of his parents listed before as James Rispin and Sarah Jourdan, but when I've searched for them, I've not found a record for a Patrick listed amongst their children. I've only been able to find Christopher, James, Mary, and John. The location of Louth also seemed like a bit of a red flag; while I know they aren't that far from one another, it's just quite different. Is there a record to show for James and Sarah having a Patrick that's been located?

My second question is regarding his wife, Mary Jane. I have seen her surname listed as both Cook/Cooke and Darby. Has this been solved, or are we still unclear about her surname? Also, per the 1870 and 1880 Census records, she's listed with the birthplace of Maine. Did they meet in Boston? Is there a marriage record anywhere for the two of them?

In my searches for the surname in the general location of Trim, Meath, I found a record for a John Rispin, who died in 1808 in Athboy, so the name does exist in Meath and a closer location than Ardee, Louth. (I do know there are Rispins throughout Louth as well, having gone on a search for this John, but I didn't know if this might be helpful or if it's just more noise.) Obviously, this John couldn't be a father for Patrick, but just another trail for us to possibly follow. Also, if Peter, as shared above, is a connection, Clonmore is close to both Athboy and Trim. I'll keep digging to see what I can find.

Thanks for sharing everything that's been shared. I'm hoping we can connect and work on this mystery together.

Until next time,

Elin

elinwoods,

As you will see, I am not a related commentator. However, I did retain a file on this family.  Patrick Rispin ( actually WRISTBAND in the 1850 Census, if you would like to check for yourself.)  Mary was 13 years younger and all children were born in Pennsylvania.  A little bit of knowledge from Australia. If you would like the entire file, just ask.  There may be little more real information, as I have not checked.

 

elinwoods,

Sorry, my reply was a little premature.    Look in the file attached above and entitled "Patrick Rispin"  There you will find a genealogy and some reference points. However, I ill have to search to find my source.

 

And a final effort, so I do not get too involved, at a very busy time.  This might give you what you seek

:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L44M-KN2

 

Copy and paste, as a last resort.     

 

Rootsireland confirms that a James Rispin and a Sarah Jourdan could definitely have married in Co Louth in 1807.