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Grimes, Austin and Mary - Tourmakeady

MayoBallyovey (Mayo)

Hello! I've been struggling to make the connection between my Great Grandfather and the next generation from Ireland. There was very little history handed down. We're supposedly from County Mayo.

I have a picture of St. Marys Church Tourmakeady that was included with our family heirlooms and photos. I assume this was of importance to them. I found it on Google Maps. https://maps.app.goo.gl/gsZMysnNCpbQb2Lx5

I have US death certificates:

John J Grimes - born May 20, 1871 in Ireland - Parents Austin Grimes and Mary ??

Mary Grimes (sister) - born 1869 in Ireland - Parents Austin Grimes and Mary ??

I'm happy to do the legwork, if someone can help point me to some good resources. Also willing to hire someone locally, but not sure how to engage that.

GrimeTime

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If your family was Catholic, you should be able to find a baptismal record for John in Tourmakeady parish. The records only go back to 1869, but you may be able to find Mary as well. You can access the parish records at this link:

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1049

Civil records for Catholics began in 1864, so there are likely civil birth records for both of them (the early years can be spotty in some places, however). Civil records for births, marriages, and deaths can be searched at the Irish Genealogy site:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

The dates may differ in the civil and parish records, because there was a fine for not reporting births promptly to the civil authorities once they started, and people often lied about the birth date in order to avoid a fine.

The baptismal record should show the townland in which the family lived at the time of the baptism. There is an online database of townlands you can search, but note that it is arranged by civil parishes (which were civil administrative divisions by then, though they had an origin as religious divisions). The civil parishes are often much smaller than the Catholic parishes, which can include parts or all of several civil parishes. If the family were actually from the town of Tourmakeady or the surrounding area, then the civil parish would be Ballygovey/Ballyovey. You can see more about that civil parish at this link, which has further links to info for each of the townlands in the civil parish:

https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/ballyovey2/

If the baptismal record shows a townland not shown at that page, then it's probably in a neighboring civil parish, which you can find through the links at that same site.

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kevin45sf@yahoo.com

Grime Time,

Wondering where you got John's birth date. I Iooked at some records on Ancestry--censuses and his draft reg. They gave his birth date as Aug 1870, 1874, 1876, 1864, 1872, and May 1874. One census said he was born in the Irish Free State, but another said Northern IreIand.

glanvil3@aol.com

Patricia:

You are correct - his dates have been all over the place. The family word was that we emigrated from County Mayo.

I have US Census records:

1900: August 1870

1910: 1874

1920: 1876

1930: 1864

Death Record:

May 20, 1871

Tombstone: 1871

GrimeTime

kevin45sfl

While I wasn't getting hits on John Grimes, I did see a couple of potential matches for Catherine Ronan 1877/78 - 1928 (his wife). They were NOT married before they came to the United States, but married once they were here. Wondering if maybe Catherine Ronan is actually the reason for the St. Mary's Church photo in Tourmakeady.

GrimeTime

Grime Time,

I found this record on RootsIreland (paid subscription)

Name:Mary GrimesDate of Birth:
  Date of Baptism:6-Sep-1874
Address:Parish/District:Oughaval RC parish
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Austin GrimesMother:Mary Malley
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:Michael MortimerSponsor 2 /Informant 2:Bridget Mcguire

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Aughaval, Tuam - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI

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Tourmakeady, Tuam - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI

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RootsIreland also found in Tourmakeady Parish Register above

Name:Catherine RonanDate of Birth:
  Date of Baptism:10-Nov-1869
Address:Parish/District:Ballyovey RC parish
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James RonanMother:Mary Not Recorded
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:Patrick RonanSponsor 2 /Informant 2:Ellen Walsh

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Perhaps a sister

Name:Bridget RonanDate of Birth:
  Date of Baptism:26-Apr-1870
Address:Parish/District:Ballyovey RC parish
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James RonanMother:Mary Ronan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:Thomas DeverSponsor 2 /Informant 2:Mary Lally

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Cappaghduff

Name:Bridget RonanDate of Birth:26-Apr-1870
  Registration Date:30-Apr-1870
Address:ChurchfieldParish/District:Cappaghduff district
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Civil Parish
Father:James RonanMother:Mary Dever
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:Winifred DeverSponsor 2 /Informant 2:
Notes:
WINIFRED DEVER "PRESENT AT BIRTH."

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First Catherine might have died

Name:Catherine RownanDate of Birth:24-Apr-1872
  Registration Date:
Address:ChurchfieldParish/District:Cappaghduff district
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Civil Parish
Father:James RownanMother:Mary Dever
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:Sponsor 2 /Informant 2:

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Regards- Mary

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James Ronan and Mary Devers had the following children- Mary 1868, Bridget 1870, Catherine 1872, Margaret 1875, John 1877, Michael 1880, Peter 1885

Possibly James' death record

Name:JamesRonanDate of Death:21-May-1890
Age:50Parish / District:Cappaghduff district
Address:Churchfield Co. GalwayCounty:Co. Mayo
Status:MarriedDenomination:Civil Parish
Occupation:FARMERSex:Male
GraveyardInformant
Graveyard:Relationship:Son
Parish:Name:John Ronan
County:Address:Churchfield

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mtvrdk@gmail.com

Grime Time,

I just found Catherine's death record on Ancestry. Her parents were James Ronan and Mary Higgins. I did not find Catherine's birth record on RootsIreland but found some of her siblings- Ellen 1868, William 1871, Bridget 1876

Name:Ellen RonanDate of Birth:2-Feb-1868
  Registration Date:
Address:ChurchfieldParish/District:Cappaghduff district
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Civil Parish
Father:James RonanMother:Mary Higgins
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:

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Record from Ancestry

NameWilliam Ronan
Baptism Age0[0]
Event TypeBaptism
Birth Date1871
Baptism Date28 Jul 1871
Baptism PlaceTourmakeady, Mayo, Ireland
Parish VariantsBallygovey, Ballyovey
DioceseTuam
FatherJas Ronan
MotherMary Ronan

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Maybe family in 1901. Did not find John's birth record. When he married in 1900, age 30.

NameJames Ronan
GenderMale
Marital StatusMarried
Age60
Birth Dateabt 1841[abt 1841]
Birth PlaceCo Mayo
Residence Date31 Mar 1901
House Number12
Residence PlaceChurchfield Upper, Ballinchalla, Mayo, Ireland
Relation to HeadHead of Family (Head)
OccupationFarmer
ReligionRoman Catholic
Language SpokenIrish and English
LiteracyRead and write
Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship
James Ronan60Head of Family (Head)
Mary Ronan65Wife
John Ronan30Son
Bridget Ronan30Daughterinlaw (Daughter-in-law)
URLhttp://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Ballinchalla/Churchfield_Upper/1576508/

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@MaryTV

This gives me some great information to get started on!

Will have to get on Ancestry also, and see some of the information behind the paywall.

Thank you all so much! Excited to do more exploring now!

GrimeTime

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