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Cawley in Doocastle, Mayo

Mayo

Dear Reachers!,

My goal with this post is to try and trace relatives of the Cawley family; below I provide as much information as I can to try and help with that.

Summary- I am hoping to find living relatives or people with knowledge of John Cawley (1840-1911) and Mary Cawley (nee Gallagher) (1850-1922) and their 8 children (at least 7 being daughters) born between (1872 and 1890) and living in Doocastle, Mayo (at least some of them up until the 1930’s).

It is not as easy to summarise as that of course and if you have the curiosity, kindness and energy you might read on to find out what I do know, might know and have possibly found which might help trigger something for someone, who could fill in my current canyon of unknown and help reach my goal! Thank you for reading.

If you do find yourself diving in then it would be wonderful if you might look at my recent post - Gallagher in Doocastle. This is because the Cawley's are linked by a marriage to the Gallagher's and there might also be information on that post which helps here - thank you.

The Gallagher's appear to come from Doocastle which is located in County Mayo, very close to the border with County Sligo. The Cawley's as far as I can tell are also from Doocastle or possibly somewhere just on the other side of the county border in Sligo! My apologies for lots of detail, I see it as part of the fun, mystery and puzzling, but we all have different angles and opinions on that. I do hope by telling you as much as I know, it might provide something that connects to you and/or your knowledge, the more crumbs the better is the idea!

I am lucky enough to have some original letters written by my great x3 grandfather Thomas Gallagher (1835-1930). He was born in Doocastle and after moving to London for a great part of his life, he returned to Doocastle sometime between 1904 -1911 and saw out the rest of his life in Doocastle Cottage.

Doocastle is in the County of Mayo but is part of Kilturra Parish, some of which is in Mayo but the majority in Sligo (as I understand it). In religious terms I understand that the Roman Catholic Church that would have been used by Doocastle inhabitants was in Buninaden (or other similar spellings), which was just over the border in Sligo. My thoughts are that the Gallagher’s and Cawley’s in the period I am looking at all lived in Doocastle but that is not 100% certain!

You will find Thomas Gallagher and a son (Peter), in the 1911 Census, along with his niece Bridget Cawley (whom according to the census was born about 1874 in Mayo). Bridget took care of him until his death in 1930 and wrote to his son in London to advise of his death.

Bridget was the daughter of John Cawley and Mary Cawley (nee Gallagher). Mary was a younger sister of Thomas Gallagher.

I do not have birth records for Mary but I have found her in the 1911 census and believe the age given of 67 is either correct or reasonably accurate. I know from very strong evidence that Thomas her brother was born in 1835-1837 and she also had a younger brother John (born 1853 [he went to London in 1871 and never returned to Ireland]).

The Census of 1911 gives us two very useful facts - which is that Mary and John Cawley had been married 38 years and that they had 8 children, all of whom were still alive. 2 daughters are showing living with them Lydia and Margaret (Lydia is a bit of an issue ! more of that later).

I have attached the 1911 and 1901 census and the page which gives details on their location (Doocastle).

The 1901 Census is also a good fit. Again, the ages are not quite perfect but the details make sense and this shows 3 children Anne, Lizzie and Maggie. Great that Anne is on here and that Lizzie (born Eliza has turned up) but where is the Lydia who is in the 1911 census? My thought is that Lydia in the 1911 census is Lizzie/Eliza? What do you think?

Based on this information I am confident I have tracked down the marriage of John Cawley and Mary Gallagher in 1872, which I have also attached. I believe this to be the correct marriage based on the things I can verify. They are both resident in Doocastle and Mary's father is given as John a landholder (something that also appears on the marriage certificates of her brothers Thomas and John and also on a document that was created by Thomas's employers in 1889). I assume William Gallagher (her witness) may be either an uncle or brother (but I don't have any information on that). The marriage date of 1872 also ties up with them being married 38 years in the 1911 census.

One small issue is her age is given as 22, meaning a birth of 1850 and yet in the 1911 census her age is given as 67 which would give a birth year of around 1844. John Cawley's birth date also varies a little (3 years) but as you will see later when he dies that gap gets smaller again.

What Mary's correct age is though is relevant when it comes to trying to find her death.... which I will get onto later.

Just one point here. I have said the Cawley’s may be in Sligo and this marriage is in Sligo. However, I don’t think Doocastle had a Roman Catholic Church and so marriages would have been needed to be conducted in the church in Bunnanden, just over the border. If this is so it means the Cawley’s were more likely to have come from and lived in Doocastle, Mayo. Any thoughts on that are welcomed!

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Armed with the marriage certificate and the 1901 and 1911 census I then tried to find 8 Cawley births!

Before beginning I also had the following useful information to keep in mind:

One of these children must be Bridget - the niece in the 1911 census, whose birth is dated 1874 (given the date of her parent's marriage she will probably be the first or second born). Bridget is often mentioned in the original letters I have, written by Thomas Gallagher from Doocastle Cottage.

The letters mention two other Cawley children - Ellen and Ann - so I was also keeping a look out of those names...

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I was very fortunate to find these births:

Mary Cawley – 12 December 1874 **

Anne Cawley – 30 November 1876 *

Anne Cawley – 23 December 1876

Agnes Cawley – 20 February 1879

Catherine Cawley – 10 September 1881

Ellen Cawley – 27 January 1883

Eliza Cawley – 30 December 1886

Margaret Cawley - 6 December 1888

All of these births are in the district of Lowpark, Union of Swin(e)ford. John is given as the father and always described as a farmer. Mary is named as his wife and always formerly Gallagher and all of them in Doocastle and the gaps between very ‘realistic’- so that looks good!

Of course, there are a few issues…

We only have 7 children but the 1911 census says there were 8

* Why is Anne Cawley recorded twice ? Is this an error that can happen?

** Where is Bridget Cawley (the niece whom according to the 1911 census was born in 1874)

*** Where is Lydia Cawley (whom appears in the 1911 census , and according to it was born in 1886? As I said up above maybe Lydia is Eliza/Lizzie?

Could it be possible that Mary the first born is the Bridget in the 1911 census with Thomas and Peter Gallagher? Would that be a realistic name change – It seems unlikely to me but then the dates and ages would fit. An alternative could be that she is a twin of Mary but then why can we not find her birth details?

IF Mary and Bridget are separate people we would have 8 children. If they are the same person we would have 7 children and wondering where the 8th is. There may have been time for a birth before Mary or after Margaret (depending on the age of Mary the mother), but not a lot of space between births between 1874-1888. We also have the tantalising fact in the 1911 census that 8 children were born and all alive in 1911.

I attach all the birth documents.

I did have a look for an Anne Cawley marriage between 1901 and 1911 but could not find one where John Cawley is named as the father. Both Anne Cawley and Ellen Cawley appear in the 1911 census returns for Doocastle but the information given proves them NOT to be 'my' Cawley's.

If you got this far , thank you and well done!

Finding some marriages would be the key it seems, rather than assuming all the girls remained spinsters and died as Cawley's. Saying that, Bridget Cawley was 56 when Thomas Gallagher died in 1930 so it is probable she may have died in Doocastle as a spinster.

I will post again (shortly and far shorter) on the death of Mary Cawley but this is enough for now I am sure you will agree!

If anyone has any queries, questions or thoughts, do please let me know. I probably know no more than I have put here but I can always get out the letters again!

Doocastle

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Doocastle:

The 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Kilturra civil parish showed four Cawley households in Ballindoo or Doocastle townland headed by Elizabeth Cawley, John Cawley, Richard Cawley and Thomas Cawley. Richard Cawley was the father of John Cawley. So this confirms that the Cawleys were in Doocastle by 1855 and further the 1833 Tithe listing for Kilturra civil parish show five Cawley records in the parish including Richard who is likely the same Richard father of John  https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=cawley&firstname=&county=Mayo&parish=kilturra&townland=&search=Search

Note: In 1833 there were no "Official" townlands that came later in 1851. I will keep looking.

One question: Have you taken a DNA test?

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

As a point of interest, Richard Michael Cawley, born Doocastle 1903, emigrated to the U.S. in 1923 and was the grandfather off U.S. VP Mike Pence. He may have been a relative of your Cawleys.

To find living relatives you might want to contact a Sligo heritage society and/or write to the newspapers that cover Doocastle.

Good luck.

glanvil3@aol.com

Doocastle:

I think there was a clerical error with the two Anne Cawley civil birth records. I located an August 14 1876 baptismal record for an Anne Cawley with father John and mother Mary Gallagher. The RC parish was Kilshalvy/Kilturra. So I think that Anne was born right before August 14th and then John Cawley took about four months to record the birth and then "adjusted" her birth date to avoid a fine. Somehow, it was recorded twice.

There is a July 7th 1873 baptismal record for a Bridget Cawley with father John and mother Mary Gallagher. RC parish Kilshalvy/Kilturra

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632312?locale=en#page/105/mode/1up

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Good morning Roger

Two wonderful posts that provide new insight, ideas and areas of research that are new to me , particularly the 1833 tithe listing! . I am going to have to work my way through all you said so I can respond with some kind of grasp of things.

Responding on your 1st post yesterday:

When John Cawley marries Mary Gallagher in 1872 his father is indeed named as 'Rich Cawley- Landholder'  so this is a very powerful link - thank you. 

In answer to your question I have not taken a DNA test 

Many many thanks for the time and care you have taken and will respond later with more thoughts

Doocastle

Hello Patricia

Thank you for taking time and interest in my post and your knowledge and ideas in response. 

Going public via a newspaper would certainly be an idea , though I can imagine they are inundated with American, English and Scottish folk doing that !

Finding a Sligo Heritage society would be a good hope (and a Mayo one if it exists!)

I am very interested in the 'Cawley girls' because they are direct descendants of Mary Cawley (nee Gallagher) - so like me they descend down the Gallagher line. In blood terms though I am not a Cawley, so although it would be fascinating if a link did become established with the American vice president (and it seems unlikely that somewhere/somehow given Roger's post on  Griffiths Valuation of 1855 and the Tithe information of 1833 that there isn't) it is not my goal.

Thinking about those Cawley girls born between 1870 to 1890, I hope that somewhere I will catch a lucky break! You would hope that some or all of them could have lived on and past the 1940's and 50's and be recalled and linked by someone still alive. There are probably 8 daughter's and we just need to hopefully find one of them and then the others might fall into place as a result .....that's my hope!

I had really given up for nearly 20 years now, on going any further back with my tree than Thomas Gallagher, other than knowing his father was John. It was only the realisation that another Irish census will appear next year (1926) and the fact that the Irish government has made such strides in digitalisation of original documentation that brought me around to giving this another go.

The kind interest and information to my rambles/blarney these past few days is already far beyond my expectations!

Doocastle

Hello Roger

And a quick response of thanks for your second Saturday post on Anne Cawley - I will look into that and respond on it further - very exciting!

I am really appreciative of the great historical insight you bring to the process - the human element. There are some questions I would very much like to ask you in regards the economic, social and political elements of life in Ireland at the time of Thomas Gallagher and John Cawley (just leading off of the insight you make above for example)  but they are probably not appropriate for the site, where I am already pushing the envelope in my appeal for greater knowledge!

If you were kind enough to be open to receiving them, is there an appropriate way to contact you?

Many thanks

Doocastle

Hello Patricia

I did look up and find Richard Cawley in the 1911 census. His mother was Ellen Cawley, which had gained my interest earlier as one of 'my' Cawley daughter's was an Ellen.

This Ellen though was married so Cawley was not her original birth surname. It is interesting that in both the 1911 and 1901 census - her husband does not appear. Also that she is called head of family and in the house and buildings return is also named as the landholder (not her absent husband). In the 1901 census her sister-in-law (I presume) Maria Cawley, is living with her along with the first two of her six children - (all alive and on the 1991 census)

Maria and the mystery husband might somehow connect back to my John Cawley or his father 'Richard Cawley' as found by Roger , earlier in this thread! ...but I must try and not get distracted into that chase - lol

Doocastle

Doocastle:

See last record at this link https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1970/04138/4050712.pdf  Very likely this is the death record for the youngest daughter, Margaret. The location is shown as Cluide which I have seen on other Cawley records. The informant was a cousin Vincent Cawley.

By the way, I think that many of the Cawley children emigrated. I can't find any civil marriage records. A DNA test will give you matches with second and third cousins who may be in America, England or another country. 

My great-grandfather's sister married a Cawley from Srah in Co. Mayo not far from Doocastle.

Roger

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Doocastle:

I located another death record which may be for your Agnes Cawley and maybe some of the girls stayed in Ireland and never married. This Agnes is about ten years older than I would expect but maybe the informant was not sure of her age. The location was Cluide. See fourth record.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1958/04376/4136414.pdf

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hello Roger ,

I am going to respond first to your post of Saturday, 13 Sep 2025, 16:29.

Wonderful information taking me into times and areas that I was never aware of or had the bravery to research.

To help understand better some of your information I found out that in 1851 Ireland had a population of about 6.5 million and that there were over 60,000 townlands (so on average just over 100 person per townland).  I learnt that County Mayo had 73 Parishes of which Kilturra is one! there were 16 townlands in Kilturra but because Kilturra straddles the counties of Mayo and Sligo only 4 townlands are in County Mayo - Ballindoo/Doocastle being one of these 4 and probably the largest (by acreage at least). This and knowing about barony's , provinces, and roman catholic parishes is quite a layer upon layer!

It really does help though when you try and see where your relatives might be 'hiding'  (in geographical based documentation) and also to appreciate the number of folk we are talking about in one place. You start to see that the number of people in Doocastle would not be so many and therefore (for example) a John Cawley may indeed be your John Cawley.

I should like to ask you about 'townlands' please. You said no official townlands existed before 1851 but I thought that townlands had a much longer history than that. Maybe this is something to do with why you have said 'official'? The tithe applotment information from 1833 you provide is for Kilturra Civil parish - it is interesting to know why it was felt the need to create a new subdivision.

Anyhow I think what you have found is excellent and that it is very likely indeed that Richard Cawley is the father of 'my' John Cawley and appears in both 1833 and 1856 - thank you so much for your research into this.

Doocastle

Hello Roger,

Here is a response to your post of Saturday, 13 Sep 2025, 17:23

I really like your theory for the birth/baptism , registration of Anne Cawley. Would you be kind enough to send me a copy of that baptism , as you have done for Bridget

Regarding Bridget... I do see the names John Cawley and Mary Gallagher  but your eyesight is keener than I because i cannot see the name Bridget Cawley (is it far right?)

Do you think there will be baptism records for the other girls?

 Two more fabulous finds, many many thanks

Doocastle

Hello Roger,

This is a response to your mails of Sunday, 14 Sep 2025, 12:13 and 16:55

Incredible you have found these. Nothing is 100% but I think that this is a Margaret Cawley who passes in Doocastle at the age of 82 is very powerful evidence. 

Of course what would make it stronger would be to tie up Vincent Cawley to Margaret. I could not find him in the 1901 or 1911 census.

I agree with you that this is again very probably Agnes Cawley in the 2nd death document you posted. Though the age is incorrect I think you make a good point why, and her place of residence is given as the same name as Margaret.

I assume that she may have been staying at her cousin's house just before her death at 'Lugdoon'

Am i right to assume that 'Cluide' and 'Lugdoon' would be house names and not sub-areas of Doocastle?

Again we have the name of a cousin 'Carmel Cawley' as an informant but I was also unable to locate her in the 1901 or 1911 census and it would be great to somehow tie them back to John and Richard Cawley... perhaps also then forwards to people who might know what happened to the other Cawley girls.

I'd like to return to the part of  your post where you say  I think that many of the Cawley children emigrated. I can't find any civil marriage records. Do you say that on the basis of not finding any marriage records, or perhaps also the fall in population in Kilturra in general ? ( I read an article online that said the population of the parish of Kilturra fell from 1,023 in 1851 to 275 in 1951). Did you have any other reason for saying it?

Because.... I am going to have to go back to the letters!! I have three photographs of the Cawley girls (a name is written in pencil on the back of each, in either my grandfather or great-grandfathers handwriting  [ neither would have met the cousins] but presumable they came across from Thomas Gallagher. One of them is taken in Chicago.

I will post again on this once i have looked carefully dug out the letters and will also post the 3 photos

You are very good at this Roger!!!

Doocastle

Doocastle:

I'm going to answer all of your questions.

Here is a link to the August 14 1876 baptismal record https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632312?locale=en#page/114/mode/1up  There was no uniform way to record baptisms and marriages in parish registers. Priests just used their own method. The register in 1876 shows parents, where they lived  followed by sponsors and then the name of the child. In this case, all we can see is a capital A so the the Roots Ireland transcriber assumed Anne and likely this was the correct assumption.

Doocastle was 1956 acres in size and in 1901 there were 139 households plus the RIC barrack. Approximately 671 people.

I made the statement that likely the Cawley children emigrated because I did not find any marriage records. With so many girls in the family, you would think that at least half of them married. We now have a death record for Margaret and a good lead on a death record for Agnes. Bridget also appears to be single so maybe I was incorrect. When I get time I will look for other leads.

Yes, the parish register link for Bridget does show Bri on the very far right and then the rest of the name was grayed out.

Regarding the death record for Agnes, Lugdoon was where the informant lived. It is possible that Carmel Cawley came from her residence and stayed with Agnes until she passed. She then notified the authorities and provided her name and where she lived. There is a Lugdoon townland in Co. Sligo but a very considerable distance from Doocastle. Perhaps there was a local place name called Lugdoon in the general Doocastle area.

Cluide/Clood and likely Lugdoon would have been local placenames within the Doocastle area.

I tried to locate Vincent Cawley and Carmel Cawley but we are limited because of Irish law. Births are available online only through 1924 and marriages through 1949. Deaths stop in 1974.

You can email me directly at castlemore@irelandxo.com  I grew up in Philadelphia but have lived in Maryland for many years.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Doocastle:

You had asked for the baptismal records for the other children. The RC parish register online for Kilshalvy/Kilturra parish only goes through 1877. https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0124?locale=en I did look for the record for Mary who was born sometime before December 1874. I found an incomplete entry on September 6th 1874. It shows John Cawley from Ballindoo. His wife was a Gallagher no sponsors and no baby name. My guess is that this was going to be the entry for Mary but the priest did not finish the entry for whatever reason and did not come back and complete the full entry.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632312?locale=en#page/109/mode/1up

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Some new information regarding the Cawley girls!

In a letter dated 8 May 1922  Peter Gallagher (1885 - 1923) Doocastle  writes to George Gallagher (1888-1970)  London that  ' we are expecting some of the girls home from America' that is the only clue /reference I have.

Attached I provide 3 photographs I have of 3 of the Cawley girls 

I am suspicious about the names because Bridget was the niece who looked after Thomas at Doocastle cottage, so who would have done so if she was visiting America? I suppose at that point his son Peter was still alive so they may have fended for themselves (Thomas 87 by then).

Anyhow  for those of you with keener eyes maybe you can see the details on two of the photographs. I can make out Chicago... possibly 508 Manson Street (I'm not sure) but none of  the rest.

I'm wondering if these would have been taken in 1922 , though to me the outfits look earlier.  

It could be of course that they visited Chicago more than once  and the photographs were not taken in 1922. Identifying the photographic studios might help the timeline

Never easy but I guess that's the fun!

Thanks for reading

Doocastle

Doocastle

Hi Roger

At some point we have been talking about Clude and Lugdoon and if they were house names (my guess) or sub-areas of Doocastle (your more informed guess!)

I am pleased to say when reading the stories written by the children of Ballindoo and Doocastle I have come across some fantastic information about Clude.

I attach a link to the story  Dumha-chaisil · The Schools' Collection | dúchas.ie

I am still unsure about townlands! I thought Doocastle was a townland but this schoolgirl (Annie Flannery) describes where she lives (Clude) as a townland. Perhaps is is a sub-townland. Anyway it is clearly not a house name as she goes on to describe Clude as having 8 houses and 31 people! Even more fortunately she says it lays between the townlands of Esker and Lugdoon! 

It has not gone amiss to me that this schoolgirl has the surname Flannery. You will recall that you established that John Gallagher's wife Agnes (1815-1894) was originally a Flannery

Apart from being useful to me these writing by the children of the 1930's are a pleasure to read. They may provide people with useful names and addresses to link into their local research and useful local social history - there are a few stories on Joe Mor Mc Donnell (who is landlord for many residents of Doocastle in the Griffiths valuation)

Regards

Doocastle

Doocastle

Doocastle:

Yes, the essays by the children in the 1930s are an excellent resource for what was going on in that time period plus local lore. Clude would be a sub-townland/local place name.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

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