Hello again,
Please view the attached file of the Civil marriage record of John Hunt and Catherine Burke.
Do you have a interpretation or definition of John's Rank or Profession?
I read cattier. What's a cattier?
Thanks again,
Kelly
Kelly,
Per RootsIreland (paid subscription), the word is cottier.
By definition-
Cottier Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
This article covered a time prior to 1867.
Hidden Ireland: The world of the cottier on the eve of the Famine
Regards- Mary
Kelly,
Although John and Catherine were married in Sligo, probably where Catherine was from, I believe they both were living in Mayo at the time of their marriage.
RootsIreland identified the following children. John was identified as a landowner on their records.
Bartly 1867, Esker Doocastle, Lowpark District, Mayo
James, 1870, Roosky Lowpark District, Mayo
Mary 1872, Roosky, Lowpark, Mayo
Regards- Mary
Kelly,
The marriage certificate uses the term “Landholder” in respect of James Hunt & James Burke. Landholder is not the same as Land Owner.
Dr William Roulston’s excellent book: “Researching Farming Ancestors in Ireland” mentions Land Holders. The term Land Holder in Ireland meant someone with about one or two acres of rented land. So better off than a labourer but not big enough to be described as a farmer.
Testifying before a Royal Commission in 1886, Dr Grimshaw, the Registrar General of Ireland said: “ There is a very common return in the Census – “land holder”, a great number of the labourers return themselves as landholders – they won’t demean themselves by calling themselves labourers and they are not dignified enough to call themselves farmers.”
Kelly,
Based on Elwyn's posting, I checked John Hunt's children civil birth records. I incorrectly stated he was a landowner. He was a landholder.
Regards- Mary
Apologies for a late reply, I must of failed to click Submit
Thanks again Mary for the references and genealogy.
Thanks Elwyn for the expansion on Mary's references to Cottiers and insight into what might be the circumstance of a "Landholder"
To repeat my unsubmitted reply: I concur with Roots Ireland's list of children of John Hunt and Catherine Burke. I have created John Hunt's genealogy on Family Search(ID G1FV-KLT)
The couple have more children after their migration to Lancashire, England; one of which then migrates to Chicago, US. That's my connection.
Interestingly, one of their Ireland born children, James, apparently stays with relatives in Roosky. James' death is recorded in Roosky, 24 April 1891.
Elwyn, I see the word "Occupier" used in Griffith's Survey. I usually translate that to the person who is paying the lease or rent. Any insights on "Occupier"?
Kelly,
That’s how I would define occupier too.
Roulston, “Researching Farming Ancestors in Ireland” page 119 gives definitions of the various terms used in Griffiths. For townland and occupiers, he says:
The name of the townland is indicated with the Ordnance Survey county sheet number(s) on which the townland is mapped. The occupier is the individual in direct possession of the tenement and in practice was usually the head of household.
That's it for now.
thank you