Patrick Carney- 5th Dragoon Guards
Hello! We are researching my husband's ancestors. We know from family histories that my husband's 3 x great grandfather was Patrick Carney from County Mayo Ireland. We know that he was in the Kings Guards and that he lived out his life in County Mayo. We know he had a daughter, Nancy Carney, who was born in 1818 in County Mayo. Nancy married James Rogan of County Mayo in 1838 and then they emigrated to America. This is all we know about Patrick's immediate family in Ireland.
This excerpt was taken from a history about Patrick's grandson, Martin Rogan.
Her father, PATRICK CARNEY, served many
years in the English army, for two years being a member of the King's
Guards, his service being in Egypt, India and at Gibralter. He spent
his last years in his native county. He was a man of fine physique,
six feet and six inches in height, while his brothers were still
taller.
We found a army service record for a Patrick Carney in the Kilmainham Pensioners records. This record shows a Patrick Carney who was born in 1786 and was in the 5th Dragoon Guards from 1805- 1817 and born in the town of Ballinrobe. His physical description mentions him being almost 6 feet tall- which would be similar to the family story. My understanding is that the Dragoon guards were a unit that could be described as the King's guards. However, the 2 years doesn't match the 12 years this record shows. He was also discharged in 1817 and our Patrick Carney had his daughter, Nancy, in 1818. This would line up if we married and started a family after being discharged.
Another piece of evidence we have is from his daughter, Nancy's obituary. It says she was from "near Kilaloe County Mayo". We took this to mean Killala. However, we don't know if it means the town or the parish or such? We also don't know what "near" might indicate. Killala doesn't seem too near Ballinrobe, but we don't know if Patrick would have stayed in Ballinrobe.
Also, Nancy Carney Rogan and her husband (and three kids) returned to Ireland in about 1845 and stayed 2 years before returning to the United States in 1847.
If you have any thoughts or connections to Carneys, in particular Patrick and Nancy, in the area of Ballinrobe-- please let us know! Or, if you have an opinion about the match of the Army service record!
Thank you-
Anne & Pete Rogan