Quinn, Bernard and Mary 1833 Cornamucklagh

Pat:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

Hopefully, someone with Quinn connections to Cornamucklagh, will see your post and leave a comment.

I think the relatively late start (1836) with the Carlongford RC records is the reason records are not available.

Civil registration of deaths started in 1864. The registration district would be Dundalk. I did not see any likely index records for a Bernard Quinn who would have been 70+ Likely he died pre-1864. There are some possibilities for Mary 1864 or later but I would wait until www.irishgenealogy.ie adds images of death records from 1864-1890. Right now, only images of deaths from 1891-1940 are available.

The 1901 census for Cornamucklagh http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Drummullagh/Cornamuc…  has five different Quinn families. I think four of the five are headed by a widow. These families must have some connections to Bernard and Mary.

Have you considered autosomal DNA testing.

Roger

 

Hi Pat

I volunteer in south Louth about 46 miles from Omeath but take an interest all Louth and especially the Cooley Peninsula. On the mariner side of things I was in my younger years a marine engineer in the merchant navy but you sound more a water than an oil chap.

There was another query a few days ago about Carlingford and someone posted on it today but I think it was meant to go here so I copied it for your edification.

Hope this helps.

From church records.

Felix (Phillip) Quinn and Mary (O'Hanlon,Hanlon) of Ardaghy (Liselea).

children - Rose b. July 15, 1836.  Pat b. Oct 13, 1843.

Rose Quinn marries Felix (Phil) Trainor May 28, 1855. Witness Felix Hanlon and Bridget Murphy.

Felix Trainor b. abt 1826, d. 1904

 

pjq

 

Lislea is near Omeath.

As Roger pointed out it is  a leap of faith to find name in a townland that is of interest and other than saying it is likely you cannot really prove it, however there is a site here for Carlingford / Cooley which should interest you http://www.carlingfordpeople.ie/ it includes some graveyard inscriptions, a historical site for Louth is here http://www.jbhall.freeservers.com/ ;

It is possible to visit in person the Valuation Office in Dublin and examine the property registers and follow ownership of the plot and subplots from Griffiths time to the present. 

Hope this is of some assistance and if you think there is anything I can do further please let me know.

Good Luck

Pat

Hi Pat!

Thanks! I meant to forward this message to you but slipped up.

Roger

Hi Patrick to avoid confusion, it is likely a person or relative would have some land in these townlands as the join each other, remember there is no real way of knowing when you pass from one to the other, it coculd be just a ditch or along a field. This site shows you the townlands mentioned and all are between Omeath and the Down border, now in Northern Ireland, there is no current inhibition when travelling from south to north or back, except Kilometres and Euros in the south and miles and pounds in the north, around Newry in the north there is usually no issue using Euro close to the border or pounds on the south side, money is still money. At the bottom of each townland are links to the census and Griffiths for that townland.

See https://www.townlands.ie/  the names mean Ardaghy means High Field, Drummullagh is ridge of the summit, Cornamucklagh is the Hill of some thing, possibly plain, Lislea is grey fort. As can be seen the land is hilly, mostly sheep and forestry, the mountains are not huge.

The Irish ordinance survey is here and I doubt an above water guy needs help with maps but you can purchase old ones if you so wish. See https://www.townlands.ie/ There are historical maps available.

The Valuation Office is a walk in place and you ask for your townland and are allowed to look through the ledger yourself, they are not great with names and plot numbers from griffiths and sub plots if they were subsequently divided, it is easy enough to look but the books are often crossed through and a new name inserted etc, the staff are most helpful. Around 1902 a law was passed in the English Parliament allowing tenants to purchase their plots after a period of land agitation coming back decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_War ;

The local authoirty site is here https://www.louthcoco.ie/en/ and you can look at the archives link and the library which does genealogy, however you appear to have done most if not all available yourself.

There is a Facebook page called Cooley Peninsula Photos Old & New or similiar which might interest you.

I was never in New Brunswick but was in Nova Scotia and Newefoundland I think, it was a long time ago. I use the Marine Traffic app so if you give me the pilot boat name I will have a look.

The Quinn name is common in Louth and I am currently assisting a lady who is researching Quinns but from Drogheda where I live and even that is difficult.

Be sure to revert if you have any more queries, the preivous US vice President has Cooley ancestry.

 

Pat

Pat Quinn:

Here is some background on autosomal DNA testing   https://www.thoughtco.com/autosomal-dna-testing-for-genealogy-1421845

Roger

 

Hi Pat

can only find the Fundy Rose on my app, thanks for the interesting info. Also today another query re Carlingford from New Brunswick, left 1821 so a bit earlier than your lot, still thought it might interest you.

Pat

Pat, hope all is still good above water with you. The other lady who posted and you asked her a query has appeared on a Facebook Page Louth Genealogy sometime back (only discovered it myself around that time and told her as she is visiting. The interesting thig is a gentleman has answered other than me and he mentions having writen a book on migration to New Brunswick from the Cooley area, he doe snot give a name or anything and I am going to post to ask if it is available, telling you in case you want to pile in.

Pat 

Hi Pat

will have to reappraise my opinion of ye above water people, you got it in one.

All the best,

The Oily Pat