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LimerickRathkeale (Limerick)

I am searching for the whereabouts of a place in Rathkeale called 'Ballyscandland'.

In 1748 Michael Tierney, a farmer, applied to the Chief Herald of Ireland for a patent to use Arms which he stated his family "had long use thereof". In his submission he gave his address as Ballyscandland, Rathkeale, Co. Limerick. Michael had a son John [and I think another, Thomas] and John had two very famous sons, Sir Matthew Tierney and Sir Edward Tierney. These two sons were granted Arms that were variants of those granted to their grandfather, Michael. 

Can anyone tell me where Ballyscandland is??? It is not mentioned in the listings of townlands and the OS have no knowledge of it. I have a feeling it may have been the name of the house or farm they lived in. Any help to solve this long standing query would be most gratefully received.

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I assume you have seen this article http://www.churchtown.net/Webpages/history/H-tierney.htm


The area is spelled Ballyscanlon in this writeup.


My guess is that Ballyscanland/Ballyscanlon was a sub-denomination (part of a townland) and when the townlands were officially sanctioned in the mid-19th century, it ceased to exist officially.


I don't live in Ireland so hopefully someone local will shed some light.


Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Roger, 

Thanks for your response. I have read all the comments and history on the Churchtown site and have visited the Churchtown area. This was part of the estate of Sir Edward. The spelling is given as Ballyscandland in the documentation and Patent deeds in the Office of the chief Herald and in the Manuscript's Office of the National Library of Ireland, bot are in the same building at 2 Kildare Street, Dublin and which I have also visited. Actually, my mother was born and grew up only 3 miles from Rathkeale and never heard of the place. This is why I think it could be the name of an estate/farm or property, but as you mentioned it could also be a sub-division. The reason I was thinking thus was because the family were originally from North Tipperary and I thought that perhaps they had named their property after their place of origin - as there is a townland in North Tipp called Ballyscanlon and it did have Tierneys living in it in 1840. I am hoping that there might be a connection there!!

Best regards and again many thanks,

Cathaoir

IrelandXO member

Hi Cathaoir

My son-in-law is from Rathkeale and his dad still lives there.

They reckon Ballyallinan may be a possibility but John senior knows a few locals who are into genealogy; there are some local Tierneys too so we'll see if anything comes from that.

Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks Col,

Any assistance will be indeed very gratefully received. I have been trying to solve yjis mystery for a number of years.

Maith th? as do shuim is do fhreagra ar bal.

Cathaoir.

IrelandXO member

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