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Leahys of Balline (Martinstown) and Fanstown (Kilmallock)

Ardskeagh (Cork)Charleville (Limerick)Kilfinane (Limerick)

Good afternoon all,

I am trying to find a connection between the Leahys of Balline (Martinstown) and the Leahys of Fanstown (Kilmallock).  The oldest direct Leahy ancestor I can determine is a Patrick Leahy (c. 1822 - 1884) from Balline, Martinstown, and he was married to Mary McGrath (c. 1823 - 1897) who was possibly from Elton.  Patrick and Mary appear to have had the following children; John (bapt. 1856), Bridget (bapt. 1858 - 1887), Roger (bapt. 1859 - 1929), Michael (bapt. 1861 - 1955), Patrick (1864 - 1942), and Thomas (bapt. 1867).  My line of the family is descended from Michael who married Mary Barry of Ballinvreena.  I know of families for Bridget, Roger and Patrick but I have am not sure about any further details relating to John and Thomas.

My grandfather had mortuary cards for some of what we believe were relations from Fanstown, Kilmallock and Ardskeagh, Charleville.  There was a Kathleen Leahy (née O'Brien) (d. 1967) who was married to Thomas Leahy who had a farm in Ballyhea (or Ballyhay) just south of Charleville but they appear to have lived in Ardskeagh to the east of Charleville.  Thomas Leahy's father was also Thomas, of Fanstown, Kilmallock, who I think is possibly the Thomas Leahy, younger brother of my great-grandfather Michael Leahy.  The Thomas Leahy of Ardskeagh was born to Thomas Leahy and Kate Carroll of Fanstown in 1907 and an obituary for the elder Thomas Leahy in the Irish Press in 1943 confirms that Thomas Leahy, farming at Ballyhea, was his son.  He had two other sons, John and Michael Paul.  John was a chemist in Charleville and died suddenly in 1938 shortly before he was about to marry.  His obituary in the Limerick Leader in 1938 lists a large number of mourners, including 'Michael and Patrick Leahy, Martinstown, (uncles)' and then later among a huge number of 'cousins and relations', 'Misses Leahy, Martinstown, Ed., John, Patrick, Roger, Barry, Martinstown'.  This all looks quite promising but I find it difficult to make the link between the senior Thomas Leahy of Fanstown and the Thomas Leahy, younger brother of my great-grandfather.

Perhaps someone here is familiar with Leahy families in east Limerick or some of the other related names.  I am attaching the two obituaries mentioned and a descendants chart for Patrick Leahy of Balline, Martinstown, if it's of any help.

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Patrick Collins 

ptkcollins

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Patrick,

I think we have been in contact before.

Mary/ Pollie Barry ((father Edmond) and Michael Leahy (father Patrick) married in1903 in Glenbrohane, Limerick.

Children born in Glenlara, Glenbrohane

Patrick 1904

Michael 1905

Edmond 1907

Bridget1909

Michael 1910

Margaret 1914

You probably have

LI-STML-0033 | Historic Graves

Irish obituaries are always very informative.

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

Hi Mary,

Yes, we have been in contact before.  Nice to 'see' you here again. :)

For my great-grandfather Michael's line I have more or less all the details, although I've been unable to locate him in the 1901 census as he's not at Balline, Martinstown and neither is he at Glenlara, Glenbrohane which is where he moved to after he married Mary Barry.  Patrick (P.J.), Mary, Edmond (Ned), Bridget, Michael (known as Barry), Margaret (Madge) and my grandfather John were all born in Glenlara but my great-grandfather then sold the Glenlara farm in 1916 so my grandaunt Johanna (Jo) was born in Martinstown where they moved to. 

Quite a few of them are buried in the family plot in St Molua's Graveyard in Balline (often called Emlygrennan Graveyard).  I recall attending my grandaunt Madge's funeral and St Molua's is the definition of what you might call a remote burial site, depending on the time of year burial generally requires the assistance of a tractor and trailer because the graveyard is in the middle of a field since a road has not run alongside it in many generations.  P.J. married Maidie Egan from Dungarvan and is buried in Tramore, Co. Waterford, Ned is buried in Kilfinane, Bridget is buried with her husband Paddy Hennessy in Ballingarry, Co. Limerick, and my grandfather John is buried in my grandmother's family plot (Mulcahy) in Emly.  I unfortunately have no idea where Mary's grave is as she died aged 7 while staying with her maternal grandaunt Lizzie O'Dwyer (née O'Dea) in Drishane, Co. Tipperary, although she is possibly buried locally in Drishane or possibly Donnaskeigh nearby, there aren't any records online for those graveyards so I'd have to physically look.

It's true that Irish obituaries can be rich in information but the capacious section of 'cousins and relations' doesn't always narrow it down too much. :D

 

ptkcollins

Hi -------I came to these Leahy's via the Leahy's of Creggane some of whom I knew personally. Some of what you say is familiar to me eg. the Parish of Ballyhea which would be Ardskeagh. My understanding is that Thomas Leahy 1835-1900 who came to Creggane in approx. 1878 came from Ballyhea and his brother John 1834-1882 went to Broad St. Charleville. I have it that their father was Daniel Leahy from Granagh, Co. Limerick who married in Charleville to Margaret Healy in 1832 and her address given as Cooleens (Ballyhea). Thomas Leahy of Creggane married Marie Mc Donagh 1847-1928 in Ballyagran on 10-2-1874 and his brother John married Catherine O Donoghue 1842-1017 in Hospital Co. Limerick.                                                                                   I have been with Mr Leahy of The Railway, Charleville, Co Limerick parish of Ardskeagh (Ballyhea) while he claims relationship to the Leahy' s as listed above ( he told me that 30 years ago) I can find no proof of that and in an interview which he did when he was 88 ( now 93) he never mentions it which I find very strange. Harry Leahy and myself called on him about three months ago and from what he said I gather that his grandfather purchased the pub at the Railway and before that he said that they had a farm in Ballyhea.                                                                                                                                                                                                           There is nothing left of the Old Homestead of the Leahy's in Creggane except the original front gate piers and part of the cow shed everything else was obliterated some years ago when the area was turned into sites. There are to the best of my knowledge no mementoes of their winnings from their sporting achievements with the exception of a clock was given to Mr Leahy of the Railway on the understanding that he was a descendant ( I am led to believe that a medal was found in the ruins of the old house but I have no idea who has it). There should have been hundreds of medals and mementoes but I was told that most of them were sold to finance the boys weekly sports activities and their biggest problems would have been competing with each other. Paddy and Connie were into the ''hop-step and jump and also the high jump, Joe was into some jumping and playing hurling for Ballyagran,

Timmy Leahy 1888 -1918 the youngest  was supposed to be better than all the others but unfortunately he died in the Spanish flu  in 1918.and was one of approx. 10,000 Irish casualties.

In 1909 Paddy emigrated to New York his destination being the New York Athletic Club and he had with him 35 $ which was relatively large amount of money pro-rata to most of the Irish going at that time. He ended up in Chicago where he married Margaret Cremin  1886--?. and had two children Thomas P Leahy 1912-1978 and Michael Leahy  ? -1995 his descendants still live there.Paddy came back to Ireland in 1921 with his wife and family. 

Connie also emigrated to New York and also took part in sports there even up to the age of 41 and passed away on the street of a heath attack on his way home from work he was married to Margaret Cronin 1886--?. and had two children.

Joe Leahy ( James Joseph Leahy)  ?--1955 farmed in Creggane until his death in 1955. He was a very nice neighbour and to us children he was kind and friendly. He was not a good farmer but I would like to point out I only knew him in his latter days when he was well into his 70's. What I remember most about him was that he used come over to us about 3/4 times a year with a bucket of apples from their orchard and my mother used bake two apple tarts for him but he never came into the kitchen but sit in the front porch on a form and speak to my mother from there.

That brings us to the women Babs 1884 - ?. who by all accounts was a very formidable athlete and trained with the boys and is well known for jumping the gate into the formally Mannix House in Deerpark Charleville ( gate still there) which was no mean achievement. In latter life she lived in Mallow with her brother Tommy who was an auctioneer.

Hannah Leahy 1882 -?. lived in the farm in Creggane until a few years after her brother Joe died where she was visited on occasions by Babs who used to get the bus to Creggane Cross and walk back the two miles to the Leahy house. Babs was about 6 ft. tall and ramrod straight and very austere and  curt to children like ourselves who she believed should seldom seen and never heard. Hannah was also visited by her brother Jack who had got a Land Commission Farm in the old Croaker Estate in Ballinaguard, Ballyneety, Co. Limerick. Jack 1879-?. was the opposite to Babs and the only word I could use for him was that he was gregarious and ostentatious he was married with two sons who emigrated to the US.

georgequain@ho…IrelandXO Volunteer

This site is breaking my chops ----I am just after doing a big piece on the Leahys and then I could not post it.

georgequain@ho…IrelandXO Volunteer

Hello Quain,

Apologies but I never saw your entry when you posted it in December. I thought I had notifications turned on for responses to threads but clearly that didn't work.

I am aware that there are quite a few Leahy families in east Limerick and it is likely that most of them were kin but I am not aware of any direct connection to other Leahys in Charleville other than the ones I mentioned, but I believe they acquired a farm in Charleville rather than having originated there. Saying that, a lot of it is speculation on my part as I can only go back as far as my great-great-grandfather Patrick Leahy who was in Balline, Martinstown (not to be confused with the nearby Balline, Bulgaden). My great-grandfather Michael Leahy had a farm for a time in Glenlara (or sometimes Glenlary), Glenbrohane, but then in the 1910s he moved to a farm in Martinstown. I know that a brother, Roger Leahy, also had a farm in Ballinvreena which is next to Glenlara. I think I'll have to get in contact with my mother's first cousin who is the daughter of one of my grandfather's older brothers. She likely has more information as she still has much stronger links to the area than I do.

Thanks for your interesting contribution though.

Patrick

ptkcollins

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