DNA Connection

Ron:

I presume your ancestors were Church of Ireland. I searched the subscription site Roots Ireland for baptismal records for then four individuals mentioned but did not find a possible lead. I also looked for a Crawford/Holmes marriage in either Laois or Offaly with no success.

Roots Ireland has a few C of I parishes with records back to the late 1700s or earlier so your ancestors were not from those parishes. Many of the C of I parish records were destroyed in the 1922 Public Records Office fire in Dublin. Some parishes have maintained their records locally while other parishes have their records at the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin, however, at this time those records are not integrated into a searchable data base.

I also checked the Tithe listings from the late 1820s but did not find a lead.

Roger McDonnell

Hello Ron

Do you have a Gedmatch kit number by any chance, if so there is a group Offaly DNA you could join.

If you have kit number I could run it for you on the group and give you the results.

My email is rahan@irelandxo.com

Geraldine

Richard:

The percentage of people in Ireland taking DNA tests is at a lower rate than Canadians/ Americans etc. However, they are testing with the same companies that are available in Canada or the USA. They also have the opportunity to upload their data to Gedmatch.

Any DNA matches with your Connor/Murphy lines would likely be a fourth or fifth cousin or even more distant.

Roger

Hello Richard

So you have done your DNA with Ancestry and uploaded the results to Gedmatch - so Gedmatch then issue you with a Kit Number

Have you got that number and I will try and help you to run your kit in different DNA groups here in Ireland

Hope that is of help

Geraldine

P.S. Richard if you do not want to put your kit number here then send it to me on email rahan@irelandxo.com

Hi Richard,

I appreciate that it is difficult to get into DNA if you have no previous experience and those that do have exerience often talk Greek when it comes to explanations.

What you need to do with your matches is to put them in order on the website. Using the top match look to see if it has a tree or origins that are of interest to you and see what they have discovered? - and work down the list... boring and...

...this can be a bit tedious but if you are up for it a very simple method uses the same list and takes the top match to you - then look for joint matches which are on your list. The top match and the joint match all belong to the same branch of your tree. No great technical knowledge needed, just some patience and organisation (I speak from experience). Give all the people in this new list a label like the letter A or Blue.

Then take the next biggest match on your original list and do the same thing - looking a tjoint matches.

Each of these groups will have no info or lots of info and you can norrow down and see where their origins are? Also who to contact and reach out to? It saves a lot of time and effort and any new match can easily be compared by finding out which joint matches you have. Although the main DNA websites do not provide this assitance (why?) it is used by every well known and commercial genealogist. Myself, I worked in DNA twice but I still had to do this manual grouping for each company my DNA is with, so you will be in good company :)

I posted this to the DNA forum too but no harm in duplicating this?

I wrote it because so many people do the test but are not helped by the companies to get traction. My opinion, is that the companies want to sell you their products and laying out a simple but tedious method is not in their interests? Some do give you clusters but only for large matches they do not try to connect the smaller matches that we use every day. hey-ho :)

Feel free to paass on the document attached? I wrote it for myself to give to others and save repeating myself but this was particularly designed with IrelandXO cooperation. I am told it is on the site but IrelandXO's main aim is not DNA analysis...... : )

In my opinion, unless you are blessed with definbite knowledge of your origins and / or locations in Ireland DNA is the one sure possibilty to find connection and proof?

Good luck but message me about any problems - the protocol may need fine tuning?

best wishes

Shay