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Looking for Ryan/Joyce relatives

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Hello!

My paternal great grandfather was Luke Charles Ryan, born in Quebec, Canada, in about 1867. His parents were Patrick Ryan (born about 1821, likely in Kilkenny Ireland, died about 1902 in Farrelton, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada) and Bridget Joyce (birth year unknown - likely in Kilkenny, and died before 1902 - likely in Farrelton, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada). Patrick and Bridget Ryan were married in Muckalee, Kilkenny in July 1840 and had 7 children (that I know of...) - some born in Ireland and some born after they emigrated to Canada in about 1860.

Luke Charles (called Charles) married Mary Agnes Sullivan in Quebec in about 1883. While still in Quebec, they had two children, then in about 1890, moved to Wisconsin, USA. They had three more children (my grandfather, Charles Ambrose Ryan, Sr. and two sibilings). In about 1908, the family returned to Ontario Canada, and I have not found further records of Luke Charles Ryan after the 1905 Wisconsin State census.

Amy Ginty-Ryan Alexander
Rockville, MD USA

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Hi Amy,

Thank you very much for your message. I hope that someone recognises the family and makes a connection with you.

If Patrick and Bridget were married in Muckalee parish then it is possible that this is where Bridget was born. Generally (although not always) weddings took place in the bride?s parish of origin. You may be able to find her birth record in the Muckalee parish records. Most Catholic records are held locally so you may need to write to the local parish priest for possible assistance. One website that you may find useful is the Irish Times where they give an overview of what records are available in specific parishes. It also shows you where copies of the records are available. For Muckalee parish, follow this link:

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Kilkenny&parish=Muckalee&churchid=997

Civil registration began in Ireland in 1864 so any births, deaths or marriages in the family after this date would be recorded in these records. Civil records are available from the General Register?s Office. Here is their website:

http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

You can search the indexes to these records up to 1958 online at:

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

I did a search for Ryans in the 1901 census records in Muckalee, and there were still some Ryans in the area at the time:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=ryan&firstname=&county=Kilkenny&townland=muckalee&ded=muckalee&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

However, Ryan is a very common surname in Kilkenny so it is difficult to know whether they are related to your Ryans or not.

It may be an idea to contact the Kilkenny Family History Society for some assistance, however a fee may apply. Here is their email: kilkennyfamilyhistory@rothehouse.com

Best wishes,

Genealogy Support

 

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