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Black/Fagan/Latimer/Adams

KildareDonaghmore (Kildare)

In 1847 the following people left Ireland and settled in Innisfil Township, Upper Canada (Ontario). I would appreciate making a connection with members of any of these families still living in Ireland.

They emigrated from Dungannon, County Tyrone, Ireland in 1847 The emigrants known to be born in Ireland are in bold print.

1. James Black b. 1802 in Ireland married Mary Latimer b. 1807 in Ireland

d. Feb 23, 1882 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada. d. Mar 23, 1884 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

Their six children: Robert b Dec. 6, 1829, d. Jan 6, 1910 in Innisfil, Ontario, Canada

William 1834, d. Feb 27, 1916 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

Margaret b. 1835, d. Mar 2, 1880 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

James b. 1838, d. Sept 26, 1915 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

Sarah b. 1845, died in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

The above Robert Black b. Dec 6 1829 in Ireland married Margaret Boothb. Aug 1826

d. Jan 6, 1910 d. in Innisfil, Ontario Canada. d.May 6, 1884 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

2. John Black b. 1822 or 1824 (brother to James b. 1802) married Mary Adams

3. Sarah Black b. 1811 (sister to James b. 1802 and John b. 1822) married James Neely

4. Isabella Black b. May 8, 1815 (sister to James b. 1802, John b. 1822 and Sarah at #3) married James Fagan b. 1808 (possibly in Canada, see # 5) in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

5. James Fagan b. 1808, d. April 23, 1872 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada.

His two sons: Joseph Fagan b. Jan 1, 1837; d. July 17, 1922 in Innisfil, Ontario Canada. Thomas Fagan b. Aug 30, 1840; d. Dec 14, 1918 in Mimico, New York

At some point James Fagan married the above #4 Isabella Black and they had a family born in Canada. The Black family tree, however, does not list Joseph and Thomas as full siblings or sons of Isabella Black although some have tried to make this connection.

I would appreciate any information you can share about the Irish roots of these families as well as family still living in Ireland.

Susan E

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These births and marriages are well before the start of statutory birth and marriage registration in Ireland (1864) and so you would need to rely on church records to locate the events.

I assume your families were RC. Dungannon is within the RC parish of Drumglass. Their baptism and marriage records start in 1821. However they don?t appear to be on-line anywhere. There are however copies in the National Library in Dublin and in PRONI (the Public Record Office) in Belfast. Unfortuntely, a personal visit is required to access either set. 

Ahoghill AntrimIrelandXO Volunteer

Susan, I am Joseph Fagan's 2nd great grandaughter, they were listed as Church of Ireland on the Canadian Census, so definitely not Catholic. They belonged to the Orange Lodge in Stroud, so Protestant through and through! I too have been researching their history in Ireland in the County Tyrone and Dungannon areas and have found nothing. I was wondering if since November you had located any information? I know that Joseph married Mary Ann Culbert and both of them were born in Dungannon Ireland they had six children, I have no information regarding James Fagan my 3rd great grandfather being married to anyone but Isabella Black and that Isabella was not Joseph's mother. Joseph and Mary-Ann named on of their children Isabella, I assumed after his Mother. If you have anything to the contrary, I would love to research that. I have hit what they call a brickwall on the Fagan Ireland connection. I have heard that James Fagan was married to Mary Latimer prior to Isabella, but I have no proof. Anything that you can add to this mystery I would appreciate. I also have a newspaper clipping and found several pictures of my Great Great Grandfather Joseph, and his wife and daughters on the Innisfil Historical Society Webpage. I have also located his and his brother Alex's farm in Innisfil, near the town of Stroud if you are interested I would be happy to share the information with you.

IrelandXO member

I am Joseph Fagan's great granddaughter and I grew up at Stroud. Can you contact me at se.oles@telus.net? 

Susan E

I'm a descendant of Isabella Hurst nee Black who came to Canada in 1828 from County Tyrone. Isabella is buried at the St. James Cemetery in Stroud. I strongly suspect Isabella is a relative/cousin to the group above that settled in Innisfil. I created a research tree via Ancestry and connected them via an unknown parent connection and the DNA matches are undeniable. When Isabella passed in 1869 a William Black ( possible brother?) wrote a Death Notice that can be found on the our stories Innisfil website. This notice was printed and distributed on card stock to the community that would have been quite small at the time. She clearly held some importance to the  In 1842 the population of Innisfil was 762 growing to 1,807 in 1852. In 1962 Stroud had a population of 700. I imagine it was a much smaller number in 1850. Isabella came to Canada and married William Hurst in 1828 - there is an Ontario marriage index for William Hurst on Ancestry. I suspect that the siblings came to Canada where they already had family settled. In a Municipal heritage register its noted that St. James cemetery is probably a family burying ground for the landowners. Many Blacks are buried here and on Isabella's headstone the name BLACK is prominent. It would be wonderful to connect these families as some history appears to be lost. terrihayes75@hotmail.com

Terri

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