Catherine Stack (b abt 1778) and her parents John & Honora

Roger. I appreciate your prompt replies - thanks. And so early in the morning, are you on another time zone? I'll go back to the records to find out who Cornelius married. Trevor

Trevor,

Upon reading your information and Roger's reply, it is possible that both marriages are correct. If the same Catherine Stack did marry Cornelius Sheahan it was possibly a second marriage for her.   Just a thought to keep in mind when searching.   Tom

Thanks Tom. I always had alternative birth locations for Catherine - Dingle or Tralee. Dingle sort of makes sense because her husband Cornelius was probably born in or near Killarney and they were probably married there. I'm visiting County Kerry again in early September and hope to tread in the footsteps of some of my ancestors. Trevor

Hi Trevor, is this the marriage you are referring to? http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/dd248e0567428 for Patrick and Mary 1838? 

In Griffiths Valuation the townland is spelled KIlsarkan (East) CIVIL Parish of Dysert, and there is a Cain Connor, witness as per the marriage record, renting land from Jeremiah Daly.We need to be careful here because Connor is such a common name.and the records for the early 1800's are scanty in Kerry overall.

How did you come to Cornelius Sheehan and Catherine Stack as Patrick's parents? Have you an English record which identifies them? I found a couple of that name with a Patrick born 1811 and 5 other children in Lisivigeen/Droumhumper, RC Parish Killarney http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=Catherine&name2l=Stack&namefm=Cornelius&namel=Sheehan&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=

Couples, genearally, but not always, married in the bride's home parish. 

It was not unknown for people to walk from Dingle to Tralee or Killarney but more often than not people married within a 3/5 mile radius of their home place. 

I can't help but feel there is a gap here somewhere and will help if I can when we hear from you again. To confuse matters Tralee was a Poor Law Union, a town, a CHURCH  Parsh and a CIVIL Parish, ALL WITH DIFFERNT BOUNDARIES and from what you have sent us we don't know to which you are referring..

Looking forward to hearing from you again.

Warm wishes

Martine

Hi Martine,

I cannot believe how helpful you, Roger and Tom are being for me with this. Thanks a million.

I'm encouraged by your location of a Cain Connor in the civil parish of Dysert. Dysert figures a number of times in my sources for Patrick. I have the place name 'Kilsarkan' from a lady I have corresponded with in the USA who found it in relation to Patrick and his mother in a family bible.

You mention five other children. I have Patrick's siblings as Mary, Margaret, John, Debora and Bartholomew. Does this corresponds to your five? Patrck named three of his children John, Mary and Bartholomew. I'm sure this makes sense. What do you think?

 

Trevor

Hi Trevor if you click on the link I posted above it takes you to the list of baptisms I found. Then you will be able to check the children against what you already have. You will also get their sponsors/godparents names which will take you a little further.

have you checked those townlands in Griffiths Valuation to see if the family names are there c1850? http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

Good luck

Martine