Anne Shanahan

Did you ever get an answer for your question?

We are also descended from Walshes of Tullamore -- Johanna (McCarthy) and Michael Walsh b abt 1800. 

My sister has done extensive work on Walshes of Tullamore. She has identified the Anne Shanahan who m. John Daley in Chicago as most likely being the Honora Shanahan baptized Mar 1 1859 in Ballybunion with parents Bridget Walsh and Joseph Shanahan. The original record at registers.nli.ie actually appears to say "Hannam," which would be Hannah or Anna. (Compare to Honoram for her sister Honora born Dec 1855.) Birth years are usually off a few years for Irish immigrants. And the March 1 baptism would be consistent with a February birth. 

Note:  One of the witnesses at Bridget Walsh's and Joseph Shanahan's marriage was Michael Walsh, who could possibly be my ancestor. Have you done DNA testing for genealogy purposes? We have a number of DNA matches with persons whom we believe to be descended from Michael's siblings.

Hi Kate

 Just received your post today though it looks like you posted at least a few days ago, I have had no more luck today then I did in 2014 in search of Anne's Birthdate & Baptism. I do however, know H Shanahan is a different person.  Honora was the daughter of Joseph Shanahan & Bridget Walsh. Born  about Dec 19 1855 per Ireland genealogy. She married William O'Donnell Feb 04, 1875, Parish Ballybunion. William O'Donnell & Honora had five children,  Bridget O'Donnell around Feb 1876, James O'Donnell around Feb 1877,  Hanora/Honora O'Donnell around Oct 1880, Joseph O'Donnell around Feb 1883 and George O'Donnell around Jun1884. Sometime between George's birth and Feb 1890 Honora passed. I have not been able to find her death, but it was in Ireland. William then married JoAnna Collins Feb 15, 1890. Together they had at least one child, also named Honora.    Honora Shanahan, Bridget Shanahan and Margeret Shanahan remained in Ireland. Bridget married James Cotter, their children came to the US. Bridget died young and James remarried. Margaret married Gerald Gallivan and their children came to the US.Catherine Shanahan, Ellen Shanahan, Mary Shanahan, and my Anne came to the US. Catherine married Thomas Loaney, they have decendents in US. Ellen married Thomas Donahue, sadly all of her children died young. only one daughter made it to adulthood, but she died young and her husband remarried. Ellen died shortly after her last daughter. She lso has decendents from her daughters children. Mary married Patrick Sullivan, they may also have decendents as some of the children made it to adulthood.  I know nothing of what happened to Edmund or young Joseph Shanahan. They may or may not have come to US, I really do not know. Of course Anne married John Daly they had 6 children but only two survived to adulthood. My great grandmother Nora Daley & Joseph Daley.Only my great grandmother had children and decendents. brother Joseph and wife had none. Joseph Shanahan Sr. father of all passed Nov 29, 1885 in Listwell Dist. 

Sorry I went on and on, I just love genealogy. and no I have not yet done a dna as cost is too much. maybe someday.

Respectfully

May B-T

Sorry, I may not have been clear. My point was not that the Honora born 1855 is a different person. My point was that the HANNAH BORN 1859 is probably the SAME PERSON as your Anne.

According to IrishGenealogy.ie, Joseph Shanahan & Bridget Walsh had at least eight children baptized in Ballybunion between 1843 and 1859: 

(1) Catherine b Dec 1843
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/338099003…;

(2) Mary b Mar 1845
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/dead9e003…;

(3) Edmund b Jan 1847
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7f1f98003…;

(4) Bridget b Feb 1849
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/50861e003…;

(5) Ellen B Jul 1853
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/61aae9003…;

(6) Honora b Dec 1855
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2ddec4003…;

(7) Joseph b Dec 1857
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/638d76003…;

(8) Hannah* b Mar 1859
 https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/924e56003…

* IrishGenealogy.ie incorrectly transcribed the record as a second daughter named "Honora." But a review of the original at http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634243#page/199/mode/1up shows that the name was Hannam or Hannah.

It's very common for the years to be off a few years in the U.S. -- even in official records.

 

Hi Kate, 

Now I understand...Since Honora is listed 2 times on different dates I was confused. I can see now how the 2nd "Honora" listed could actually be "Hanna" thus Anna.  Is there someplace where the name shows Hanna instead of Honora since I had no listing for  Hanna at all. This has clearified something very much. If I had not heard from you I would still be baffled why Honora was listed twice and there was no Anna. (Hanna) .  Thank you I am excited now.

Most respectfully

May B-T

You can see the IrishGenealogy.ie TRANSCRIPTIONS for all 8 children by doing a search here https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced.jsp using the terms: "Shanahan" baptized "1843" to "1869" in "Ballybunion" with parents "Joseph" "Shanahan" and "Bridget" "Walsh."  

But the ORIGINAL records are at http://registers.nli.ie  

Honora born 1855 is on page 181 of the applicable Ballybunion register at http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634243#page/181/mode/1up  (about halfway down the page, on the 19th) The entry is a bit scribbled. But her latin name was HONORIAM (or Honoram) ... which is Honora or Nora.

The second "Honora" born 1859 is on page 199 at http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634243#page/199/mode/1up  (second entry from the bottom) That entry is also scribbled.  But I think that the latin name there is probably HANNAM ... which is Hannah or Anna. And I think if you compare it to the entry for an unrelated Honoriam directly above it, you can see the difference.

And note that March 1 is the date of the BAPTISM (with the date of birth estimated at about the same). That fits with a February 15 birth.  And years are often a few years off in the U.S. records.