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Joy Family of Daugh

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I am looking for help withnaming patterns. I think my great great grandfather was born in Daugh,Kerry. According to the US 1900, census my great great grandfather Maurice Joy was born Jan 1835. On his death certificate said that his father's name was John Joy and mother Mary O'Donnell. When I looked at the parish registers, I found a Maurice Joy born Jan 4, 1835 in Duagh. Parents were listed as Maurice Joy and Mary ODonnell. I knowthat the name Maurice Joy is a very common name in that area, Is it possible that because of the number of Maurice Joys in that area that John Joy's first name could Maurice and he went by John to distinguish between that different Maurice Joy families?

Any help would be appreciated

Deb Nolan

IrelandXO member

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Deb:

I looked at the Duagh records and I think your analysis is on target. There were three other baptismal records where the parents were Maurice Joy and Mary O'Donnell. The children were John, Margaret and Catherine. Unfortunately, none of the records show a townland. Are youw aware of any of the names for Maurice's siblings?

I also looked at the 1852 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Duagh civil parish and there was a Maurcie Joy in Knockalougha townland. Not sure if this is your ggg grandfather.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/kerry/duagh.htm

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger,

Thank you so much for your quick reply.I noticed that  are also two John Joys in Griffiths. I also found the births of the other children just recently. I think that John and Margaret are are his parents,  I am going to look at Connecticut USA  records for his marriages. Maybe there will be more info . He was married at least 2-3 times. Apparently  he was a character!

Again  Thank you!

Deb

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IrelandXO member

Roger,

Thank you so much for your quick reply.I noticed that  are also two John Joys in Griffiths. I also found the births of the other children just recently. I think that John and Margaret are are his parents,  I am going to look at Connecticut USA  records for his marriages. Maybe there will be more info . He was married at least 2-3 times. Apparently  he was a character!

Again  Thank you!

Deb

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IrelandXO member

Roger,

Thank you so much for your quick reply.I noticed that  are also two John Joys in Griffiths. I also found the births of the other children just recently. I think that John and Margaret are are his parents,  I am going to look at Connecticut USA  records for his marriages. Maybe there will be more info . He was married at least 2-3 times. Apparently  he was a character!

Again  Thank you!

Deb

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IrelandXO member

Deb,

Maurice Joy and Mary O'Donnell were living in the townland of Knockalougha between 1833 and 1847. There were six children:

Margaret (6 Jun 1833)

Maurice (4 Jan 1835)

John (24 Mar 1837)

Catherine (17 Nov 1841)

Julia (4 Sep 1844)

William (12 Jan 1847)

Hard to say why your g-g-grandfather would have said that his father was John. There was a John Joy living in Knockalougha contemporaneous to Maurice snr. They may well be brothers which would mean that your g-g-grandfather had an uncle called John. Strange that he would call his father John. This John was most likely the John Joy who sponsored your g-g-grandfather's baptism. (the other sponsor was Julia Joy.)

Hope this is of some use to you.

 

Tom

ThomasP

Tom 

Thank you so much for your reply. I think you are right. The "John Joy" was from his death certificate and the info was only as valid as the person that gave the information. I will adjust my records.I thought it was strange also. He never had any male children to continue the naming pattern.

Again- thank you for the information

Deb

IrelandXO member

 

 

Hi Deb, you were looking at the Joys of Knockalougha.

if you are still searching please email me at jpstack@eircom.net

Rgds,

John Stack 

 

 

 

jpstack@eircom.net

Hi

I am looking for any information on the Joy family from Foildarrig townland in Duagh. The family I am interested in is William Joy b. 1804 who married Catherine Wingle. They had at least 2 daughters, one named Mary b. 1835 and the other named Julia. Julia emigrated to the US and married Andrew Logan.

Many thanks,

Ann Marie Fair

ann marie

Ann Marie:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I checked the subscription site Roots Ireland ( which has Duagh marriage records) and the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie which has Duagh baptismal and marriage records. You can see below that the parents were married in 1831. I found three children as follows: John Baptized November 27, 1831 Mary baptized July 6, 1835 Julia baptized July 30 1837. I assume your family emigrated after 1837? Here is a link to the Duagh parish register if you wnat to see if there were any other children. https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0668

UPDATE: I went to see if there was a Catherine Wingle baptismal record (there was no record) and I found a Maurice Joy baptismal record for August 23,  1823  which assumed was a typo so I searched the register and sure enough he was baptized August 23 1833 so you have a fourth child

Roger McDonnell

Date of Marriage:04-Feb-1831
Parish / District:DUAGH RC
County:Co. Kerry
Husband  WilliamJoy
Wife  CatherineWingle

itness 1
Witness 2Name:MichaelDillane
MauriceDillane

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Dear Roger,

Thank you for taking the time and effort to reply in such a detailed way. An elderly friend of the family who lives in the US has asked me to look into the Joy family. I will check out the links you referenced. She will be delighted! 

Ann Marie Fair

ann marie

 

 

Ref;  JOY FAMILY  - The enclosed attachments may be of interest concerning the Joy family of Knockalogough 

 The Hanrahan headstone contains the name of Hannah Joy who was the sister of John Joy.  She lived with the Hanrahans' on their Knockalogough farm.  She is photographed in around 1970 with my father Denis Roche.     (michael roche)                                                                      

 

 

 

mroche75@yahoo.co.uk

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