CMTS,

I know this doesn't answer your question but I came across this information during my search.

I found this article on Facebook

"Attack on the Marquis of Clanricarde's Agent

As Robert D'Arcy, of Woodville, J.P., agent to the Marquis of Clanricarde, was proceeding home in his gig on Tuesday evening at half-past six o'clock, he was met by two men near the hill of Tulla, a mile from Loughrea, one of whom caught the reins of the horse, and struck Mr D'Arcy on the forehead with a stone, which threw him backward in the gig, while the other assaulted him with a heavy stick, inflicting a severe wound on the right side of the head near the temple.

Both men then attempted to pull him out of the gig for the purpose, it is thought, of murdering him, but were prevented by the arrival of one of Mr D'Arcy's herds.

The outrage is considered to have been committed to revenge some recent evictions on other parts of the marquis's property, over which Mr D'Arcy is agent. The perpetrators escaped. The police are on the look out for them. An investigation will take place on Thursday next.

Cork Examiner - Monday 26 January 1852"

Burke (Clanricarde) | Family | Landed Estates | University of Galway

Herdsmen in County Galway - Abbey and District Heritage

You might want to contact this group

Herd's cottage - Galway County Heritage Office

From Ancestry

Maybe Patrick's gravesite. Link identifies Mary Elizabeth Burke Tulley as daughter.

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Patrick and Marys' death records can be found on Irishgenealogy. Patrick is identified as a farmer. Note Mary's daughter Teresa witnessed her death. Are you aware of Teresa. I couldn't find a record.

Irish Genealogy - Explore your Family History

Regards- Mary

Maybe the library can bring you in touch with this group.

Loughrea Library | Galway County Council

LOUGHREA WALKS PROJECT LAUNCHED

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Other places you might contact.

Cumann Seandálaíochta agus Staire na Gaillimhe – Galway Archaeological and Historical Society – Founded 1900

Amo... - South East Galway Archaeological & Historical Society | Facebook

Galway County Council - Loughrea Area Office in Loughrea | City Council | goldenpages.ie

Regards- Mary

Covers herds in Galway and mentions Loughrea.

Soghain Genes - Herds in Galway While many families... | Facebook

Hello Mary,

Thank you for all the interesting information and links. I've started looking through it all! The article about the attack on Robert d'Arcy was very interesting but I think the herd mentioned in that story would probably not be Patrick Burke since it happened in 1852. I don't think the record of Mary Burke who died in 1892 is the right one. I suppose it's possible she could have been in Doogarraun if she was being taken care of by family there. But, although her age of death (52) could be correct, I have never heard of a daughter named Teresa. The first 2 known children of Patrick and Mary Burke were born in Cahernamuck, Lackalea (Carrabane) in 1861 + 63. Later, in 1866 and May 69, they were living on Bride St, Loughrea. Then they were living in Tullahill in Dec 69 and onward until they moved to Garacloon South, near Craughwell. I don't know when they moved there; if it was before or after Maria (Keating) died in 1892.

I wonder if you would know the name of the estate which would include Garacloon South . Patrick died in 1918 in Garacloon South (CP Kilconierin). Thanks to you, I have found his death record on Irish Genealogy. His occupation is given as "farmer" but since he was 86 and hadn't been well for "some years" (according to the record), I imagine he was no longer working as a herd. His death was reported by a daughter (Margaret) from his second marriage. If he was 86 in 1918, he would have been born in about 1822. If this age is correct, he was born earlier than I thought so I need to do some more searching about him. I don't know his place of birth or his mother's name. His fathre's name was given as William (on his 2nd marriage record with Margaret Fallon of Craughwell).

From what I read in the information you sent, often the father of a herd was also a herd. If this was the case, it could help me in my searching.

Many thanks, Mary for your help!!

Cindy

Hello Cindy,

The Valuation Office in Dublin City holds the original Griffiths Valuation maps. You can contact the Valuation Office beforehand and book an appointment to search the Griffiths Valuation map for Tullahill, Tullagh Upper. 

Valuation staff members may be able to help you search the Griffiths Valuation map, and what are known as the Valuation Revision Books.

Basically, the Revision Books (also known as Cancelled Books, or Current Land Books), record when a person moved off the property and when the next person took over that property.

For more information about Griffiths Valuation Maps and the Valuation Revision Books at the Valuation Office, located at Abbey Street Lower,

Dublin 1, Ireland, go to: https://timeline.ie/finding-your-irish-roots/the-valuation-office/

To search the Revision Books you will need to know the Electoral Division in which Tullagh Upper was located.

According to the 1901 census of Ireland, Tullagh Upper and Tullagh Lower were in the Loughrea Rural DED. DED stands for District Electoral Division.

See the 1901 census for Tullagh Upper and Lower at: https://tinyurl.com/2szjsy2m

To book and appointment at the Valuation Office, go to: https://valuationoffice.simplybook.it/v2/#book

For more information about the Valuation Office Revision Books, go to: https://timeline.ie/revision-books/

If you have questions about researching Griffiths Valuation Maps and Revision Books, fill out the form at: https://tailte.ie/contact-us/

If you are not going to be in Dublin City in May, you can hire a genealogist to search the Griffiths Valuation Maps and Revision Books at the Valuation Office. For more information about hiring a genealogist based in Dublin, go to: https://timeline.ie/hire-irish-genealogists/

The hourly rate charged for genealogical research is €90 (Euros), which is about $105 U.S. dollars.

By the way Cindy, after some trial and error I found the church marriage record for Patrick Burke and Mary Keating. I can send the marriage record to you in a follow-up reply if you don’t already have it.

Best Wishes,

Dave Boylan

Cindy,

I just thought it was an interesting story about D'Arcy.I don't know who the herd was.

I do not know the estate which would include Garacloon South.

Garracloon South Townland, Co. Galway

Map | Landed Estates | University of Galway

Per Irishgenealogy, Patrick married Mary Fallon in 1892. They had three children- Margaret 1893, John 1894, Jane 1894. Is the gravesite at the Carmelite Cemetery your Patrick's? Notice on the 1901 census his birth was 1840, in 1911 birth shown as 1837, and his death record shows 1832. They typically did not celebrate birthdays in Ireland then. People did not know what year they were born, It could be off by 10 years.

1901 Census

Residents of a house 1 in Garrycloon South (Moyode, Galway)

Records from Ancestry

1911 Census

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Per RootsIreland (paid subscription) marriage record for Patrick Burke and Mary Keating

Regards- Mary

Cindy,

Garracloon, South in Barony of Dunkellin, Co. Galway

Civil Parish Kilconierin 

DED Moyode

Dunkellin Barony | Landed Estates | University of Galway

Mary

Cindy,

Hollypark is a possibility

Hollypark House Map - Estate - County Galway, Ireland

Hollypark | Galway | Landed Estates | University of Galway

Another option

Riverville Castle, Ballynahivnia Co. Galway | Riverville Cas… | Flickr

Riverville Castle, Ballynahivnia, Co. Galway - IrishHistory.com

Caherkinmonwee Castle - Wikipedia probably not since it was in ruins for two centuries.

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Civil record shows Patrick father was deceased.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Priest: B. Quinn.

Cindy

Hollypark House today. Maybe someone there can provide the history of the area?

Our Story | Hollypark Horses | Galway, Ireland

Hollypark House, HOLLYPARK, GALWAY - Buildings of Ireland

Hello Dave and Mary. Many thanks to both of you for all the information you have provided. Dave, I will be in Dublin for 2 days in May and I hope to go to the Valuation Office as you suggested to look at Tullagh Upper and also Lackalea and Cahernamuck East. I will be looking at all the links you provided! Thank you for finding a record about the marriage of Patrick and Maria in 1858. I believe I have seen this record if it's the same one you found (witnesses Murphy and Kelly, no addresses).

Mary, I had been made aware from a previous search of the birth record you provided me with of Patt Burke born in Carrabane in 1837 (parents William B and Mary Hart) and also that there was another son named William, born 1833. I wasn't sure this was the right Patt (mostly because I had once been told by a relative that the family had come from the Portumna or Tynagh area). But I think now that the Patt Burke birth in Carrabane must be the right one. I suppose his father may have come from the Tynagh area, especially if he was also a herd and needed to move around. I have looked for a sister named Mary as shown on the 1901 census as Mary Dillon (sister, widow age 67) who was living with Patt Burke in Garacloon South but I haven't found any records about her. I did see that there was a James Dillon living in Lackafinna South (borders on Lackalea) in 1856 (Griffith's). I thought he could be a possible link to Mary but I haven't found anything else about him.

Records of the 1st two known children of Patrick and Maria (Keating) show them born in "Cahernamuck, Lackalea" (Maria 1861 and Bridget 1863). Bridget's death in 1865 was recorded with address "Cahernamuck, Carrabane". I believe their 3rd child Thomas E. was also born there (1864?) but I don't have a record of his birth. I'm assuming that this is Cahernamuck East since it borders with Lackalea. There was a herd's house there and also one in Lackalea. I am wondering as I look at the Griffith's valuation if the names of the herds are ever recorded. Do you know? Also, since I know that Pat Burke was a herd, would you think that his father, William, was a herd also?. (While I think of it, would you know of any old churches or graveyards associated with the area of Cahernamuck/Lackalea that I could visit? I wonder if the people in that area would come all the way to Loughrea for the Sunday mass.)

Yes, Patrick Burke is buried in the Carmelite Abbey Cemetary. I'm hoping to find the tombstone when I'm there. The tomb was first erected for "Maria Burke née Keating" by their son Thomas (mentioned above). Thomas emigrated to the U.S. in 1884 and returned to Ireland for visits in 1910 and 1913 with his own son Thomas (who was about 10 years old at the time). During one of these visits, he had the gravestone erected for his mother Maria. In 1918 his father Patrick was added to the gravesite and in 1943 his brother Michael (born in Tullahill, died in Salthill) was added. Michael had emigrated to the U.S. in 1891/92 but later he returned to Ireland (probably in the 1930s) to live the rest of his life there. Just as a matter of interest, Michael refused to return to the U.S. to live despite the pleadings of his children! (As per the ancestry link you showed, my grandmother Mary Elizabeth did marry a Tully who was from Co Mayo.)

I will be contacting the East Galway Archaelogical and Historical Society to see how I can obtain their Loughrea 1926 booklet. I saw on their site that they also have booklets for Loughrea 1791, 1824, and 1846.

Many thanks again!

Sincerely,

Cindy

Cindy,

You might want to complete the Meet and Greet form on this website for local volunteers.

From what you said I assume this is Patrick's gravesite.

Patrick Burke (1834-1918) - Find a Grave Memorial

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Her husband's name maybe John, Died before 1901 census.. Click on Record Image

Than you for your reply Cindy. Please let us know if you were successful at the Valuation Office.

Have a fantastic trip to Ireland.

Dave

Hello Mary and Dave,

I wanted to let you know that I had a fantastic trip to Ireland.  I was able to spend a full day in Loughrea wandering around and visiting the Abbey Cemetary where I saw my great-grandparent's tombstone.. 

In Dublin, I was able to go to the Valuation Office (revised books) although for not as long as I would have liked. I viewed the Lackalea Elect Division (Loughrea) because Patrick Burke's first children were born (1861-66) in Cahernamuck (Lackalea Elect Div).  I saw a Patrick Burke in a herd's house of Coorbaun townland which is just 1 townland across from Cahernamuck (with Lackalea townland in between them).  This house was on a lot of 36 acres and the immediate lessor was a James Joyce.  In 1863, Patrick Burke's name was crossed out and replaced by James Joyce "in fee".  I didn't find any other pages for Coorbaun so I couldn't verify when he started being the herd there.  I checked Griffith's Valuation and in 1856 there were 3 herd's houses in Coorbaun (and not much else!).  The one with a lot of 36 acres was occupied by Thomas Healy at that time.  Does it make sense that Patrick's children were born in Cahernamuck and that he was in the herd's house in Coorbaun in 1863?  I was thinking maybe he was only there for a short time . 

And I was wondering about something else.  As I think I mentioned earlier, I'm trying to find out when my Burke family moved out of Tullahill (partly to determine where they were living when my great-grandmother Maria Keating died in 1892.)  Someone told me that I should check lists of pupils in Loughrea schools.  Since my grandmother could both read and write, she must have gone to school.  If the family were still living in Tullahill in the 1880s, I might be able to find her name as a registered pupil there.  Their house in Tullahill was approximately a mile and a half west of Loughrea which might indicate which school she would have attended.  Would you have any ideas about how to find this information?

Thank you very much.  I so appreciate the help you have given me. 

Sincerely, Cindy