Mellodys

Hi Martin,

 

The 1875 marriage was to an Elizabeth Haverty, what  exact place was Michael in Liverpool, 1901, 1911

 

What were the names of his children?

 

Brendan

www.researchireland.com

Thanks Brendan for looking this up 

I was looking to see where did the marriage take place ? and did it give the father's names and the townlands on the record?

Michael was in Field Street , Liverpool from before 1911 until his death in 1925 

In the 1891 Census the familywere listed as :

 

Michael Mellody38

Elizabeth Mellody32

Mary Mellody13

John Mellody11

Joseph Mellody9

Elizabeth Mellody7

Martin Mellody6

Michael Mellody4

Mathew Mellody2

Margaret Mellody5/12 

 

Martin

 

 

Hi Martin,

 

Michael married in Ballinasloe, 1875 Volume 19 Page no 19, you can order his marriage certificate online

from www.gro.ie or alternatively you can order a transcribed record through Rootsireland.

 

Brendan

www.researchireland.com

Sorry Brendan had this already from ancestry The office in Galway doesn't have it That's why I contacted here 

Ballinasloe is the Registeration area rather than the locality which is what I need

Thanks

 

Martin

Hi Martin,

 

I have had this problem before, I had reference numbers from Ancestry and familysearch, they were wrongly transcribed.

 

Rootsireland have the church marriage record, register for free and then buy the record, costs about 5 euro, I buy in bulk.

 

http://galwayeast.rootsireland.ie/

 

Brendan

www.researchireland.com

Killaan would be in the Roman Catholic parish(s) of Bullaun, Grange & New Inn in Galway East. Really not a 100% miles away from Cloonsheecahill.

Killaan, also spelt

Cill Le??in local Irish name
Kill-Locbhain Colgan
Cill lae’an leadain
Killaan
Killaan By. Sketch Map
Killean Larkin’s Co. Map
Killaine Co. Alph. List
Killaan Francis B. Foster, Esq.
Killaan Manus Ward, Esq.
Killaan John Eyre Trench, Esq.

is described as "Lies in the N. East of this parish in the barony of Kilconnel bounded by Cloonamorris, Cloverpark, Glebe of Woodlawn, Woodlawn, Cloonahinch, Cloonacolleen and Cloonakallis in this parish and by Loughannnavaig in the parish of Killalloghtan in Kilconnel barony."

With reference to Park Lawn and Farly a William Flannery in the Kiltullagh area. I think these are possibly typos and should read Farty. As the Flannerys were and are based around there. Farty or Farta as its also known is an area that is actually in the Turoe, Buallaun, Loughrea area (parish of Lickerrig and the townland of Aberanville) outside the current boundries of Kiltullagh Parish.

Killaan is in the Woodland area of County Galway, east of Kiltullagh/Killimordaly parish. Parklawn maybe a small area around there. I cannot seem to find it mind.

on the Griffiths Valuation of Ireland - Killimordaly, County Galway
Meledy         John               Brackloon             Killimordaly     Galway
Meledy         John               Knockroe              Killimordaly     Galway
Meledy         Michael            Brackloon             Killimordaly     Galway
Meledy         Michael            Knockroe              Killimordaly     Galway

Melody in Cloonsheecahill in 1901/1911 Census as you have probably already noted as indeed are Haverty. Haverty still live in Cloonsheecahill today.

The National Archives in Dublin would be one of the main places to source information like this or as Brendan mentions above http://galwayeast.rootsireland.ie/

Michelle

Volunteer in the Parish of Kiltullagh/Killimordaly

Thanks Michelle

So I should look in the Bullaun parish for the info on the Melody-Canning marriage as her townland is Parklawn (Farty) ?

Martin

 

 

I would think if they were married in the Killaan area, then keep you search around there for now. Normally the bride married in the place that they were raised, as is still the general tradition today. There maybe a placename called Parklawn that we have yet to locate in the Killaan area. (http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/asp/parish.asp?id=30710)

"I also have a marriage cert of Michael Melody of Colemanstown who married a Bridget Canning (possibly Cannon) on 21st April 1873

Bridget's father was Michael and they were married in the Killaan area"

re Canning or Cannon
you may already have gone through the 1901 census but just in case

Carrowholla (Killaan, Galway)
Canning    Bridget    20    Female    Niece    Roman Catholic Housekeeper
Niece of a Kelly Family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Killaan/Carrowh…

Cloonkeenagran (Cloonkeen, Galway)
Canning    Mary    50    Female    Head of Family    Roman Catholic Widow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloonkeen/Cloon…

Alloon Upper (Ballynacward, Galway)
Cannon    Michael    83    Male    Head of Family    Roman Catholic
Cannon    Bridget    83    Female
With Daughter Catherine Kennedy and Family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Ballynacward/Al…

on the Cannon side in 1901  in the Killaan area
Cloonymorris    Killaan    Galway    
Gortfadda    Killaan    
Knocknabooley    Grange    Galway    
Streamsford    Grange
        
 

Martin,

 

I'm just reading over your message again...

when you say "Bridget's father was Michael and they were married in the Killaan area" are you talking about Bridget Haverty or Bridget Canning (possibly Cannon)???

Just spotted this on Ancestry.com

Name:    Mary Melody
Gender:    Female
Birth Date:    3 Feb 1874
Birth Place:    Killaan, Gal, Ireland
Baptism Place:    Killaan, Gal, Ireland
Father's Name:    Michael Melody
Mother's Name:    Bridget Cannon

getting confused between the two now...

Thanks

Michelle

Volunteer @ Kiltullagh Killimordaly IRO

kiltullaghkillimordaly@gmail.com

The Melody-Canning Marriage query as per my original message is to loacte the townland called ParkLawn as per cert. I have seen this in the 1825 tithes as also Farty which is a townland associated with Flannerys

The family possibly moved to Colmanstown from Cloonskecahill

 

The Melody-Haverty marriage query is to locate the cert which was in the Ballinasloe registeration district Having that will hopefully give me the townlands of the bride and groom

This family moved to Liverpool

 

My question to an earlier message was in which Parish I should look for the Melody-Canning marriage as you say its not Kiltullagh Should I contact the priest in Bullaun, New Inn or elsewhere?

 

Martin

Martin, I asked another contact re Parklawn and afraid the location is not familar either (other than the above mention).

To answer your question Parklawn in reference to William Flannery, the nearest Church would be Bullaun. but, if they were married in the Killaan area as mentioned earlier then maybe search out New Inn as being nearby Church.

Killaan Graveyard would be closet to New Inn, but don't rule out checking records at nearby Kilconnell Church.

To marry in the Killian area but potentially from miles and miles away (in refernce to Parklawn as per William Flannery) would be unusual

You mentioned you have the Marriage Cert, is there a Church Name/Location mentioned on it? This might help track down Parklawn.

Michelle

Martin,

I am going to deal with placenames from pre 1840s, so it is not an exact science! These are placenames that can be seen on early maps and in early census records but did not get onto the townland list so are more or less forgotten. I wrote an article on this a few years ago and you can find it at http://homepage.eircom.net/~archaeology/three/placenames.htm.

I’ll start with a little history (relevant ) if you don’t mind. Fert is the Irish for grave or burial mound and Fearta is the plural, meaning  graves or burial mounds. In the townland of Fearta (Farta, Farty etc.) there were dozens of burial mounds, most of which were destroyed before the famine by people looking for buried treasure. This may be your townland of Farly (with an ‘l’ instead of a ‘t’). According to an 1833 map there is a place within Fearta called Camp Park. This is reputed to be a camping ground used by Sarsfields soldiers retreating from the Battle of Aughrim. Within Camp Park there is William Flannery. I have a feeling that I have seen this referred to as just Park, but I don’t know where. Also in the area are Parkroe and Thailla Park. This is relevant because I have seen a birth certificate from 1875 where the address was gives as Thaille. This shows that even though Thaille was not a townland, it was still in use locally in the 1870s. So the same could be true for Park.

And now to Killaan. In the 1821 census there was a place called Kileen which was very close to Fearta. It doesn’t appear in later records, but two households listed in Kileen in 1821 are listed in Turoe (the next townland to Fearta) in 1825. So although nobody remembers Kileen, it is fair to assume that it was right next to Fearta (and Camp Park).

Fearta is in the parish of Kiltullagh-Killimordaly and Turoe is in Bullaun-New Inn. I don’t know where Kileen was (is), but it was certainly on the borders of these two parishes. To make matters worse, literally across the road from Fearta is Kilconiron Parish. Although in Kiltullagh-Killimordaly parish, people from Fearta would have associated with Bullaun for school and church etc. So the relevant records could be in Kiltullagh or New Inn, or at a very long shot, Carrabane.

Finally, if you are looking for a marriage cert from the 1870s, the Birth Marriage and Death records office in Dublin may be best. I would assume that because it is not in Galway that is is not in Dublin.

Hope this helps,

Best wishes, Kieran Jordan

Kieran

Thanks so much for your reply That certainly adds to the info and locates where they were from

I will be home in August and will try and get some more local info that should help track them down eventually :)

I will share your article with the Mellody-Cannon descendents

Martin

 

 

 

Martin,

Quick reply!

When you say 'home in August', do you mean in Galway? Perhaps we could meet and I can show you the 1833 map.

Also, Kiltullagh-Killimordaly Parish Historical Archive has been established to gather research from disparate sources and store it in one place, making is accessible for current and future generations. It contains:

· Records from 1821, 1825, 1855, and some school records from the 1880s

· Books written by authors from the parish and surrounding area

  Family history notes

· School histories and photographs

· Family histories for some families from the parish and surrounding area

· A collection of photographs from the parish and surrounding area

· Maps

The Parish Archive is located in Kiltullagh National School and is available for consultation by appointment only. It is not intended to make the information or photographs available on the internet – a List of Contents will be available.

Would you consider consider donating a copy of your family history research to the Parish Archive? This may help current or future generations who are researching the same subject matter. All donations will be gratefully received and acknowledged.

For further information contact Kieran Jordan on 5apples@eircom.net

Best wishes, Kieran