Ann married John Maguire in fylde, fleetwood, in third quarter of 1880. The census in 1901 puts her at 40 years and born in Fermanaugh. John seems to be from Kildare and he is 45 years. She would be born around 1860/61, and he around 1856. I have no idea when they left Ireland and ended up.in lancashire. Has anyone come across any births that could fit Ann Mary Graham?
Kay,
Statutory birth registration didn't start in Ireland till 1864. Prior to that you need to rely on church records. Not every church has records for the 1860s (Some Church of Ireland records were lost in the 1922 fire in Dublin) and where they do exist not all are on-line, so if you don’t know where in the county Ann came from it may be difficult to trace her. RC records are mostly on-line but for other denominations you might need to search the records in PRONI in Belfast which requires a personal visit.
What denomination was Ann, and what was her father’s name and occupation? Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church so that should be a clue as to her denomination.
Graham is a very common name in Fermanagh. For example, there are 548 in the 1901 census of the county, 39 of whom were named Ann, so care is required to identify the right family. (Most of the Fermanagh Grahams are descendants of Scots who moved there from the Scottish Borders in the 1600s).
You are curious as to when Ann moved to Lancashire. Most people who left Ireland then did so for work, so she probably left when she reached working age ie 16 -18. There were quite a few mills in Fermanagh and if she was working in a mill in Lancs then it's possible that she came from a mill/weaving background.
You say that John Maguire seems to be from Kildare. That could be so but it is also the most common surname in Fermanagh. (The Maguires were the original “native” tribe in that area). Perhaps he’s from Fermanagh too and they knew each other before leaving Ireland? (92 Maguire in Co. Kildare in the 1901 census. 2056 in Co. Fermanagh). Statistically he’s likely to be RC.
Thank you for the information. I was advised that the code on the census indicated fermagh, interestingly it noted a county killasea, which does not exist so.error probably. I think Ann was likely catholic, her children's baptisms are mostly in.latin. The maternal side are still mostly RC. She was married either by registrar or registrar present, which could indicate Catholic rites or a mixed marriage perhaps.My family seem to have a habit of marrying neighbours, so you could have a point. I don't have any trace of the marriage of parents yet but early days.
Sorry meant to say mileage not fermaugh.
Kildare, predicted text is a pain
I am not sure what census you have been looking at but if it’s a transcription, try and view the original as it may be clearer what the place names really are.
Yes Latin baptism points to the family being RC.
Re Killasea, there is a place in Fermanagh called Killadeas. Perhaps that’s got scrambled? Again that’s why viewing the original is so important. Transcriptions were often done by people unfamiliar with Irish names and place names and there are a lot of errors.
Killadeas is in the RC parish of Irvinestown. Their baptism records start in 1841. You could search them looking for Ann’s baptism. The RC parish records are on-line free on the National Library site:
https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx