Searching for Information Keeffe/Cotter

the births you mentioned are extracts of civil birth records - the numbers are the register page number, and the locations given are usually registration sub-districts. The research certs from GRO should add a few more details - e.g. child's place of birth, often as the name of a specific townland, father's occupation, usual residence which can be different to the place of birth, and also the name of the person who reported the birth to the registrar.

 

 

Whitechurch sub-district was part of Cork registration district so that's the district to look for on the BMD Index. Cork is a large district based in te city, but also covering areas in the county, and based on estimated age etc there are about four reasonable matches for possible deaths of Edmond's mother over the years mentioned - see : Julia [O'}Keefe - deaths

I suspect that William and Julia married before the start of civil records, so a search for church records would be required for their marriage, and also for possible baptisms for any earlier children to the couple

 

The place of birth, residence etc on certs is usually the name of a townland - the two closest matches are Lota Beg and Lota More. Both of these were in the correct civil registration district - i.e. Cork , and sub-district Whitechurch. The second word might be a spelling variation, or alternate - etc

You can order research certs (€4) from the GRO for any of th e available dates, but only by post or fax. Download the order from here (it's an MS Word document), print it out, fill in your details, and the references you mentioned plus the name of the district, and tick the 'photocopy' option  for research certs. Ignore the unnecessary details on the form like PPS details etc. Certs are usually sent by post, but recently they added  an email deliver option - if required tick the option on the form, and enter you email address.

Note that death certs dont include very much detail, but you can often confirm the connection using place of death, name of the informant etc

 

EDIT : there is a Lota Ville house or estate in Lota More townland - see here (1st Ed. OSI Map from c1837). I'd say William worked on the estate, and probably lived in a cottage or mews etc on the grounds or very nearby.

The sub-district name of Whitechurch might be a little misleading, as it's also the name of a large civil parish and a village to the north of Cork city. It's quite common to find the same name used for different types of land division, which can get confusing, which is why I try where possibly to include both the placename and type of division - e.g. Lota More townland, Rathcooney civil parish, Whitechurch sub-district etc.

The sub-district of Whitechurch was (poss. still is) part the Cork city district, and as well as parts of Whitechurch civil parish the district also included parts of other civil parishes to the north east and east of the city - e.g. Kilcully, small sections of St. Anne's and St. Michaels, and all of Rathcooney civil parish where Lota More and Lota Beg townlands are located.

There's a map of the Official Placename website at logainm.ie that might help explain - see : here

Click the 'open the file' link to see a map of the districts for the South East of Ireland - you will probably need to save it to your PC and use picture viewer or similar to see the details by zooming in. Look to the bottom right of this map for the Cork city area. The city centre is shown with the heavy lines. To the north and east is a district with two names labelled inside, which are civil parishes in this case, marked Rathcooney, and Whitechurch. The one underlined is the the used as the name of the sub-district.

Your link certainly looks like the right place to me, I'll see if there are any mention of the house in old directories etc

 

From what I can find the occupier or owner of 'Lota villa' in 1870 (Slater's Directory) was a Captain R. T Gray, , and  later in 1901 he (or possibly his son) is shown census at the right location here  The house is described on the Census Form Building returns as having 21 rooms, with 9 windows in the front at that time, so looks like a match the one you found for sale.

There a death on the Probate Calendar for Richard in 1904, and his full name as Richard Townsend Gray and his address is shown as Lottaville, Glanmire, Co. Cork

In 1901 there's a Margaret O'Keefe servant living on Lota More townland, I dont think she's one of William and Julia's children but might related through another branch. (surnames can have slight spelling changes, and prefixes like O or Mc/Mac can disappear or reappear...)