TURLEY ANCESTOR.

DownClonallan (Down)Newry (Down)

HI MY NAME IS MIKE, MY FAMILY RESEARCH OF MY GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER HENRY TURLEY

MAY HAVE RESIDED IN CLONALLAN, HE WAS BORN AROUND 1790 BIRTHPLACE NOT FOUND AS YET.

I HAVE A RECORD THAT HE WAS MARRIED TO A ROSE HEANY ( HENAY ? ) ON 23RD APRIL 1820

IT STATES RESIDENCE AS CLONALLAN-PARISH OF NEWRY -DIOCESE DROMORE

COUNTY ARMAGH ,DOWN.

I HAVE FOUND HENRY TURLEY , AND ROSE HEANY ON THE 1841 LIVERPOOL CENSUS.

HENRY TURLEY DIED IN LIVERPOOL IN 1847 AGED 57 YEARS. I HAVE FOUND MOST OF

MY LIVERPOOL ANCESTORS, DESCENDANTS OF MY G.G.G GRANDAD HENRY TURLEY.

HE HAD A SON PATRICK TURLEY BORN IN IRELAND ABOUT 1821 , AND A SON JOHN TURLEY

BORN IN IRELAND ABOUT 1826 , BEFORE HE CAME TO LIVE IN LIVERPOOL ENGLAND.

HIS SON PATRICK DIED IN LIVERPOOL IN 1871.

THE SNIPPET OFA RECORD I HAVE SHOWING CLONALLAN IS THE ONLY LEAD

I HAVE ON MY IRISH ANCESTORS.

SO I AM AT A DEAD END AT THIS TIME, RESEARCHING IRISH RECORDS ON ANCESTRY

HAVE BEEN FRUITLESS. SO I HAVE POSTED THIS ON THE CLONALLAN MESSAGE BOARD

TURLEY IS MY FAMILY NAME - HENRY TURLEY IS MY ANCESTOR.

THANKS , MITCH.

mitchturley195…

7 years ago

4 replies

The marriage you have found is an odd one. It’s in a series of records for Newry RC parish entitled: “Funerals & Dispensations”. Evidently it wasn’t a funeral but it might have been a dispensation (could be required because of consanguinity or lent). Normally you married in the bride’s parish but perhaps this couple were both temporarily living in Newry. Newry & Clonallan are adjacent. Maybe it is their marriage.

Clonallan RC parish doesn’t have any records before November 1826 so that may account of the lack of baptisms for Patrick & John. (I can’t find any).

The bride’s surname was probably Heany or Heaney. A fairly common surname in Co Down. (Over 300 in the county in the 1901 census. Nil Henay).

I searched the tithe applotment records for Clonallan (which contain details of those with land). There were Torley/Turley households in Dromore, Ballydelaney & Corrigs townlands. And I notice Heney in Dromore & Corrigs too. So perhaps that’s where the couple came from.

http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/clonallan-parish.php

Here’s a Turly family in Ballydulany in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Upper_Clonallan/Ballydulany/1250285/

There don’t appear to have been any in Carrogs or Dromore. Heany in Corrigs in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Warrenpoint/Corrogs/1250870/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Warrenpoint/Corro…

If they had left Ireland for Liverpool soon after 1826 there won’t be any other records in Ireland to check. Perhaps a DNA match with someone living there today might identify the right family but I can’t really think of much more that could be done.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

7 years ago

Thank you for your replies, Appreciated, yes they are a difficult couple to try and trace,

I am not sure when they left Ireland for Liverpool,but as i mentioned, Their second son John

is shown on the 1841 Liverpool Census born in Ireland 1826, So they left Ireland

some time between 1826 -1841 ?.

Thanks Elwyn for letting me know, That the small piece of information i found

was not a Marriage.

I will continue my research, and hope to get a solid lead one day as to where My Great Great Great Grandad

Henry Turley came From In Ireland. Once again Thanks For Your Reply

Regards Mike.

mitchturley195…

7 years ago

,Thank you for your replies, Appreciated, yes they are a difficult couple to try and trace

I am not sure when they left Ireland for Liverpool,but as i mentioned, Their second son John

is shown on the 1841 Liverpool Census born in Ireland 1826, So they left Ireland

some time between 1826 -1841 ?.

Thanks Elwyn for letting me know, That the small piece of information i found

was not a Marriage.

I will continue my research, and hope to get a solid lead one day as to where My Great Great Great Grandad

Henry Turley came From In Ireland. Once again Thanks For Your Reply

Regards Mike

mitchturley195…

7 years ago

Hi Mitch, My Turley ancestors came from the Clonallon area. Edward Turley born around 1760. RC. Listed on the Flax Growers List of 1796. Have you checked that list? Have you done a DNA test? I've done one on Ancestry. That might be a way to find a link. Have fun with your search. Myra Turley

mtstar@aol.com

2 years ago