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Looking for birth details of my great grand father and mother, Patrick Trainor and Teresa Shannon

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i am wanting to track down the birth details of both my great grandparents - Patrick Trainor and Teresa Shannon. According to Patrick & Teresa's marriage certificate (they were married in 1864 in Victoria, Australia) Patrick was was 36 years old and Teresa was 21 years old. His name is Trenor on the marriage certificate but has changed to Trainor on all other official documents.

This certificate's details would Patrick's birth around 1828 and Teresa's at 1843. However Patrick's age changes with each milestone. On the birth certificate of their first child he claims his age as 32 years, putting his birth date at around 1838. His death certificate claims a different date once again. On each certificate it is stated that he was born in County Down, Northern Ireland and on his 1st child's birth certificate it is refined to Ballygarvan, County Down. Teresa's birth place is listed as County Wicklow on the marriage Certificate and on the 1st born's birth certificate it is refined to Humphreystown, County Wicklow, Ireland. Patrick lists his parent's names as Arthur Trainor and mother as Susan (Susannah) McGarry. Teresa lists her father as Robert Shannon and mother as Anne Reily. Patrick came to Australia around 1860 and Teresa arrived in 1862 aboard the ship the Shackamaxon. I have searched every data source I can think of and have found nothing. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you, Johanna

Johanna Trainor

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The civil parish for Humphreystown townland, County Wicklow is Boystown and the associated Catholic Parish was named Blackditches - a scan of the marriages for this parish shows a marriage of a 'Robt.Shannon' to to an Ann Reilly on the 1st February 1823.- see towards the end of the right hand page (NLI RC registers).

The early baptism records for this parish do not include mother's surname - but do show some very promising matches for baptisms of at least two children to this couple - John bapt. 7th May 1833, and Mary bapt. 10th June 1835 - parents for these are noted simply as Robert and Ann Shannon.

Some of the pages in the register are quite difficult to read, so might be worth a browse through to see if there might be other children... link to the register images on the NLI website

Blackditches parish is located south of Blessington lakes and around the village of Lacken. The area has changed a lot since the time of your Shannon / Reily ancestors - the Lakes were formed in the 1940s as part of the Poulaphouca Dam and hydroelectric project, at very low water levels ruins of some old cottages can be glimpsed in the lakes.

p.s. Ballygarvan townland Co. Down is in Inishargy civil parish and on the Ards Peninsula which is east of Strangford Lough, the associated Catholic parish was likely 'Ardkeen, Inishargy (Kircubbin)'

shanew147IrelandXO Volunteer

Johanna,

I found records on Ancestry

NameTom Shannon
Baptism Age0
Event TypeBaptism
Birth Date1829
Baptism Date16 Jan 1829
Baptism PlaceBallymore Eustace, Wicklow and Kildare, Ireland
DioceseDublin
FatherRobert Shannon
MotherAnne Reily

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NameRobertus Shannon[Robert Shannon]
GenderMale
Event TypeMarriage
Marriage Date2 Jul 1871
Marriage PlaceBlackditches, Ireland, Ireland
Residence PlaceHumphrystown
Parish VariantsBoystown, Valleymount
DioceseDublin
FatherRoberti Shannon
MotherAnnae Reilly
SpouseElizabeth Miley

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Maybe, Shane might be able to confirm if this makes sense.

NameRobert Shannon
Birth Date1792
Death Date21 Mar 1867
CemeteryBaltyboys
Burial or Cremation PlaceBlessington, County Wicklow, Ireland
Has Bio?N
SpouseAnne Shannon
ChildrenMichael ShannonJulia ShannonRobert Shannon
URLhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/223398650/robert-shannon

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NameAnne Shannon
Birth Date1802
Death Date22 Jun 1864
CemeteryBaltyboys
Burial or Cremation PlaceBlessington, County Wicklow, Ireland
Has Bio?N
SpouseRobert Shannon
ChildrenMichael ShannonJulia ShannonRobert Shannon
URLhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/223398664/anne-shannon

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NameRobt Shannon
GenderMale
Event TypeMarriage
Marriage Date1 Feb 1823
Marriage PlaceBlackditches, Ireland, Ireland
Parish VariantsBoystown, Valleymount
DioceseDublin
SpouseAnn Reily

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Maybe, Teresa's sister

NameMary Ann McMullan
Death Age76
Birth Dateabt 1841
Death DateAbt 1917
Death PlaceKerang, Victoria
Registration Date1917
Registration PlaceAustralia
FatherShannon Robert
MotherAnn Rielly
Registration Number9032

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Tithe Applotment Book

NameRobt Shannon
Residence Date1833
Residence PlaceHumfreystown, Boystown, Wicklow, Ireland

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Regards- Mary

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The following baptismal record is from rootsireland.ie. Note the mother's name here is not Susan, but Margaret.

Name: Patrick Treanor

Date of Baptism: 13-Mar-1833

Address: Maghermayo

Parish/District: DRUMGOOLAND LOWER

Gender: Male

County Co. Down

Denomination: Roman Catholic

Father: Arthur Treanor

Mother: Margaret Magrevy

Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Dorby [Darby] Magrevy

Sponsor 2 /Informant 2: Elizabeth Magrevy

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glanvil3@aol.com

From Ancestry., Maybe

NameAnna Reily
Baptism Age0
Event TypeBaptism
Birth Date1802
Baptism DateJun 1802
Baptism PlaceBallymore Eustace, Wicklow and Kildare, Ireland
DioceseDublin
FatherJacobo Reily
MotherMaria Reily

Ballygarvan Townland, Co. Down

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

Unfortunately that interesting Ancestry/FindAGrave entry is not sourced and there's no photo of the memorial or headstone. I found a more complete transcript with a photo of a Shannon headstone at Baltyboys Graveyard on IGP (Irish Genealogy Projects), it mentions Robert and Anne with the same dates along with other details .. as follows :

The full listing is at this link, (see entry 329) and the, difficult to make out.., photo is here

The full Baltyboys transcripts and photos are here (4 parts), there are various other Shannon mentioned on other memorial transcripts.

.Humphreystown is listed as 'Humphriestown' on the 1911 census and includes one Shannon household still at the townland, widow Eliza age 65 and son Patrick age 23 - might be related... the link to the household on the new NAI system is here.

shanew147IrelandXO Volunteer

Wow! Amazing amount of information. Thank you all so much. Johanna.

Johanna Trainor

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