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Seeking info on my ggggrandparents, JAMES KELLY and Mary DEVANNY Divine). James, abt 1815 to bef. 1870 and Mary could be from Derrynanaspol and Derryconnell, Lettermacaward. Both Roman Catholic. In going through all the genealogical sites I could find, these towns are close together and have several Kelly's and Devanny's. James and Mary had two sons. My ancestor Patrick, abt.1835-1909, and Constantine 1843-1890. Constantine was born Cor, Glenties?, Donegal. I cannot confirm this. Patrick married Elizabeth Kennedy who was born1837, Kilbeggan, Westmeath. They were married 1857 in Scotland. Patrick and Elizabeth might have had a daughter, Catherine 1856, born in Ireland.

I have been to the Latter Day Saints librany in Salt Lake City, USA. I have been to the National Library in Dublin. I have tried Spinning Wheel, Griffiths, Tithe, Valuation, and spend many hours on the Internet. I have devoted 52 years to finding my Kelly's. With such a common name as James or Patrick, it is hard to choose which family is yours.

I have written to the area churches with no response and have looked at several cemeteries. A family member said he was told we originally came from Galway.

I will be forever grateful if someone could help me find my Kelly's.

Thank you in advance. Margaret Kelly Schwartz

magaidh

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Hi Margaret,

Thanks very much for your message. It is obvious that you have put a lot of hard work into your family history and I really hope that someone makes a connection with you through this website to help you further your research.

in the meantime, it may also be an idea to contact Donegal Ancestry Centre, however a fee may apply. Here are their contact details:

Donegal Ancestry Centre,

The Quay,

Ramelton,

Co. Donegal.

Phone: +353 (0) 74 9151266 Email: info@donegalancestry.com

Some websites that you may find useful for your research, if you have not already used them, are:

The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm

Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/donegal/index.html

Donegal Diaspora: http://www.donegaldiaspora.ie/

i hope some of these links are helpful. Please be patient - as our programme has only begun to rollout across the island of Ireland and volunteers in some areas may not yet be organized.

Kind regards,

Genealogy Support

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Hi Margaret,

just found this message! We have traced the line from Patrick Kelly coming to Scotland. we are still here in Scotland. the family does originate from Lettermacaward in Co Donegal and as you'll see below Patrick Jr moved to the states. the family name that appears throughout all the generations is Owen. I have a brother Owen Kelly, a grandfather (deceased), an uncle and 4 cousin Owens!! find info below. I can send more if needed.

Andy Kelly (Stirling Scotland) 

KELLY

 

James Kelly c1815              died before 1857

and

Mary Divine c1815

 

CHILDREN

Patrick            c1838 Donegal         married Elizabeth Kennedy, born West Meath died 15/8/1915                                                          her parents were Ann Gramant (on marriage cert, Gorman                                                     on death cert). Date of mariage 1/6/1857, Dunfermline

 

Constantine  c 1843 Donegal        Married Alice Hannaway    died 26/6/1890                                             

Constantine Kellys son Constantine (14yrs) died following a mining acident on 15/7/1898,in Glasgow Royal Infirmary,he died the following day injuries were a fractured skull jaw and severe lacerations.

Constantine senior was found drowned in the river Clyde on 26th June 1890. He was last seen alive on 2/1/1890.Cause was by accidental drowning.

 

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CHILDREN OF PATRICK KELLY AND ELIZABETH KENNEDY

 

James                        6/3/1858, Dunfermline        married Catherine Cussack*

John               19/10/1859, Bathgate          married Helen Sweeney                 died**

Mary               23/5/1861, Bathgate                                                                                    died 18/2/1868

Bridget           26/3/1861, Barhgate                        married Francis Allan                      died 16/7/1885***

Patrick ****      15/1/1865, Bathgate                married Elizabeth Cussack*

Ann                  16/3/1867, New Monkland      married Patrick Donnelly                   

MARY JANE  12/5/1869 WEST CALDER   MARRIED THOMAS QUINN                       DIED 6/4/1949   Margaret            18/12/1874, New Monlkland   married James McLean        

 

* Catherine and Elizabeth Cussack were sisters

** Someone on ancestry has John Kelly dying in Peterhead prison in 1905, but his great grandaughter has said she cannot prove it.

*** Bridget Kelly died following the birth of her sone Francis, he was apparently brought up by his grandparents Patrick Kelly and Elizabeth Kennedy

**** Patrick Kelly (jnr) and his wife Elizabeth Cussack emigrated to the USA.

 

IrelandXO member

Hi Margaret,

just found this message! We have traced the line from Patrick Kelly coming to Scotland. we are still here in Scotland. the family does originate from Lettermacaward in Co Donegal and as you'll see below Patrick Jr moved to the states. the family name that appears throughout all the generations is Owen. I have a brother Owen Kelly, a grandfather (deceased), an uncle and 4 cousin Owens!! find info below. I can send more if needed.

Andy Kelly (Stirling Scotland) 

KELLY

 

James Kelly c1815              died before 1857

and

Mary Divine c1815

 

CHILDREN

Patrick            c1838 Donegal         married Elizabeth Kennedy, born West Meath died 15/8/1915                                                          her parents were Ann Gramant (on marriage cert, Gorman                                                     on death cert). Date of mariage 1/6/1857, Dunfermline

 

Constantine  c 1843 Donegal        Married Alice Hannaway    died 26/6/1890                                             

Constantine Kellys son Constantine (14yrs) died following a mining acident on 15/7/1898,in Glasgow Royal Infirmary,he died the following day injuries were a fractured skull jaw and severe lacerations.

Constantine senior was found drowned in the river Clyde on 26th June 1890. He was last seen alive on 2/1/1890.Cause was by accidental drowning.

 

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CHILDREN OF PATRICK KELLY AND ELIZABETH KENNEDY

 

James                        6/3/1858, Dunfermline        married Catherine Cussack*

John               19/10/1859, Bathgate          married Helen Sweeney                 died**

Mary               23/5/1861, Bathgate                                                                                    died 18/2/1868

Bridget           26/3/1861, Barhgate                        married Francis Allan                      died 16/7/1885***

Patrick ****      15/1/1865, Bathgate                married Elizabeth Cussack*

Ann                  16/3/1867, New Monkland      married Patrick Donnelly                   

MARY JANE  12/5/1869 WEST CALDER   MARRIED THOMAS QUINN                       DIED 6/4/1949   Margaret            18/12/1874, New Monlkland   married James McLean        

 

* Catherine and Elizabeth Cussack were sisters

** Someone on ancestry has John Kelly dying in Peterhead prison in 1905, but his great grandaughter has said she cannot prove it.

*** Bridget Kelly died following the birth of her sone Francis, he was apparently brought up by his grandparents Patrick Kelly and Elizabeth Kennedy

**** Patrick Kelly (jnr) and his wife Elizabeth Cussack emigrated to the USA.

 

IrelandXO member

Hi cousin. So nice and surprised to hear from you. I have not been on this website for years and just happened to come upon it. I decided to send you my entire file. As you can see, it is quite large. I have found it very frustrating that there doesn't seem to be any information on James and Mary. I also have Anne's (John Kennedy) Church Baptismal record stating her last name is Gormly and the death certificate states it is Gramant. Just like Elizabeth (James Kelly) is Devanny and Divine.

Patrick Peter Kelly (1865) and Elizabeth Cusick are my ggrandparents. I personally knew all of the children and spent a lot of time with them as they were a very close family. Elizabeth lived with my grandparents for awhile, and my grandmother and I used to visit her grave quite often.

My grandfather was Owen, my dad was Earl Eugene, which is Gaelic for Owen, and my latest ggrandchild is named Killian Owen. Elizabeth Cusick's father was Eugenio (Owen) Cusick. Yes, we certenly have a lot of Owen's.

I met someone who was related to Matthew Brady, brother of Owen Brady, but she didn't have any more information.

I was told Mary Divine's parents were Peter (1791) and Sarah (1801) and Mary was born in Gortahork, Donegal, but I don't have any proof. I was also told they had 8 children.

Patrick Peter (1865) was a miner. My dad used to tell me about him sometimes. We lived in Philadelphia, PA. They moved around a lot following the jobs. Grandpop started working in the mines when he was 9 years old. Of course, when I knew him, he was a shoemaker working for Edwards Shoes in Philadelphia. He and my grandmother were the best ever and I have always been proud to be one of that side of the Kelly family.

I hope you find this informative and I would love to hear from you and all about your family. I have been to Ireland and Scotland many times and it seems all roads lead to Stirling. A wonderful area. My very best to you.

Margaret Kelly Schwartz from Philadelphia, PA. I am presently living in Orange County, California.

 

magaidh

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