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Samuel is shown in Holborn London with wife Harriet and son Thomas age 4 on the England/Wales census. A search of the civil birth index records shows a likely match for the son as Thomas Henry McNeven in St. Pancras registration district in the first quarter of 1847, the GRO index gives the mother's maiden surname as Evans.
If the couple married in England then there should be a civil marriage record which should give the name and occupation of their fathers...
Youghal Catholic baptism records (NLI) cover back to 1803, however a quick search of these showed no McNeven or similar baptism that I could see..there were a few Nevin baptisms but much later. Do you know what religious denomination your McNeven family were ?
Harriet Evans might have been married previously, or she might have had a stepfather. There’s a marriage for Samuel McNeven to Harriet Hullum in Marylebone, July - Sep 1844 Vol 1, page 176. It's the only Samuel McNeven marriage in the English records around that time. Probably worth looking at that. It should give you Samuel’s father’s name and occupation.
The 1851 census gives Samuel’s place of birth as: “Youghvill” which makes you think of Youghal in Co Cork, but there is also a townland named “Youghalvillage” in Co. Tipperary (North Riding). So if you are unable to locate the family in Co Cork you might need to widen the net.
That said, there isn’t a single McNeven anywhere in Ireland in Griffiths Valuation (1848-1864) which makes me think the name changed some time after Samuel went to England, and so the version in use in Ireland was slightly different. Can’t usefully suggest what it might have been.
The marriage took place at All Souls, Westminster St. Marylebone parish (Established Church-Church of England) on the 26th August 1844. Samuel is listed as a Bootmaker age 26, first marriage, Harriet Hullum is age 27 and a widow, father's are Daniel McNeven a bootmaker and Henry Evans - both deceased.
(Register image on Ancestry)
Death cert for Daniel Nevin, died in Youghal Workhouse 1887, Shoemaker.
Hi All
Thank you all very much for your research, replies and suggestions very helpful - I think the Death Cert is probably almost certainly for Samuel McNevens father Daniel.
Best regards,
Bridget
