Elizabeth Josephine Bail(e)y m/o Fr John Sullivan

Passage West (Cork)

There is a family story that my cousins are related to Fr John Sullivan, now a Blessed, on the other side that their relationship to my family. I have been trying to verify this, and think the link must be on the Bailey side (the Catholic side) at some point with the Donovan, O'Sullivan, O'Keeffe, or Herlihy families on my cousin's side. Docs on Fr John all said his mother was from a Passage West family which can be documented, but her birth cannot. Her reputed birth year is 1823 and reputed father is Robert (the latter very well verified as to his career) but I cannot find a birth record, nor can I find a mother's name. I think the family did live in the Passage West area. someone did post a birth year of 1790 and a father's name of Robert but there is no record to prove this given.

Any ideas on the birth of this woman? or other family members?

Cheers,

Andrew Finglas.

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Andrew,

To clarify- is this who you are referring to.

John Sullivan (Jesuit) - Wikipedia

Regards- Mary

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Name	Bessie Josephine Baily
Gender	Female
Marriage Date	24 Sep 1850
Marriage Place	The Holy Trinity, Cork, Ire
Father	Robert Baily
Spouse	Edward Sullivan
FHL Film Number	101315
Reference ID	2:3FF0PJ8

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Name	Robert Baily
Gender	Male
Event Type	Marriage
Marriage Date	29 Nov 1817
Marriage Place	St Finbarr's (South), Cork city, Ireland, Ireland
Residence Place	Parliament Street
Parish Variants	Christ Church, Christchurch, South, South , Cork, St. Finbarr's South, Cork, St. Finbarr's Sth, Cork, St. John of Jerusalem, St. Nicholas
Diocese	Cork and Ross
Spouse	Mary Thomas

Ancestry, maybe your Robert?

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Name:	Eliza Baily
Address:
Father:	Robert Baily
Mother:	Mary Thomas
Further details in the record
Child Denomination:
Sponsor 1:	Arthur Hartland
Sponsor 2:	Eliza Waters
Priest:
About the record
Book Number:
Page:	291
Entry Number:
Record Identifier:	CR-RC-BA-75324
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If this is the correct family?

Name	Margaret Baily
Baptism Age	0
Event Type	Baptism
Birth Date	1821
Baptism Date	27 Sep 1821
Baptism Place	St Finbarr's (South), Cork city, Cork, Ireland
Parish Variants	Christ Church, Christchurch, South, South , Cork, St. Finbarr's South, Cork, St. Finbarr's Sth, Cork, St. John of Jerusalem, St. Nicholas
Diocese	Cork and Ross
Father	Robert Baily
Mother	Mary Thomas

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Name	Francis Baily
Baptism Age	0
Event Type	Baptism
Birth Date	1819
Baptism Date	12 Oct 1819
Baptism Place	St Finbarr's (South), Cork city, Cork, Ireland
Parish Variants	Christ Church, Christchurch, South, South , Cork, St. Finbarr's South, Cork, St. Finbarr's Sth, Cork, St. John of Jerusalem, St. Nicholas
Diocese	Cork and Ross
Father	Robert Baily
Mother	Mary Thomas

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Name	St Ellen Baily
Baptism Age	0
Event Type	Baptism
Birth Date	1818
Baptism Date	3 Sep 1818
Baptism Place	St Finbarr's (South), Cork city, Cork, Ireland
Parish Variants	Christ Church, Christchurch, South, South , Cork, St. Finbarr's South, Cork, St. Finbarr's Sth, Cork, St. John of Jerusalem, St. Nicholas
Diocese	Cork and Ross
Father	Robert Baily
Mother	Mary Thomas

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Dear MaryTV...yes tha tis the correct family for Fr John Sullivan who was a Jesuit. Thank you so much for all that work... I have ancestry but think I was lost in all the options.

There was a brother named Francis, so the Robert Francis could be he, and I knew there were two sisters but did not have names for them..Ellen certainly could be one.

But as I wrote I know the father was Robert, and think Mary Thomas then very likely the mum.

Some of the family think the relationship of Fr John Sullivan to my cousins-of-cousins O'sullivans is direct, and of course the "O" was used irregularly. But the Sullivans were Protestant, moneyed and tended to law, and higher realms of business where OI'Sullivans on "my" side were Catholic, mostly all teachers northwest of Cork City in Kanturk, Newmarket areas. Hence my lookingo into the mother who was Catholic and her lines. As you probably know back then the girls followed the religion of the mother, the boys that of the father, so Fr John was raised a Protestant but then converted, finally entering the Jesuit order.

I'm going to plug this in to my ancestry tree, then see what I can find going back on the Thomas side.

THanks, again!

Andrew

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Andrew,

You might want to take a DNA test. Maybe you will find a family connection.

Mary

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Elizabeth Josephine Bail(e)y m/o Fr John Sullivan

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