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Looking for origins of John Kelly family

Cork

My great-great grandmother, Alice Kelly, born circa 1818 was the youngest of 9 or 10 children of John Kelly, county unknown.  She married Thomas Donnelly around 1840.  He died around 1848.  She supposedly left behind a son, Edward, in Ireland and emigrated to USA with daughter, Margaret, age 8.  Margaret died of chicken pox either on the voyage or right after arrival.  The family story says Alice lived  with her sister or her aunt, Annie (Donnely) McBride,  on a farm in upstate NY where she met her second husband, married and moved to Michigan.

I sent for Ann (Donnelly) McBride's death record of 1904.  It had as her father, William Donnelly, so Ann must have been my Alice's sister-in-law.  Her husband was John McBride, also born in Ireland.

I'd always thought Donnelly was a northern name but on the U. S. Federal census of 1930, Alice's daughter noted that her mother was from the Irish Free State - not sure how reliable that notation is.

Alice's second husband was a John Kennedy from County Cork, parish unknown.

pilgrim

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Hi Julie

Thank you for your query. Have you checked emigration records for a place of origin for Alice? Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city she arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, New York, etc.), this could be a good place to find more information. -And perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

Ellis Island: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp

Castlegarden: http://www.castlegarden.org/

US National Archives/Immigration info: http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/

Emigrants often sailed from Irish ports such as Cork (Queenstown) to UK ports and then on to the US. You could also try checking the UK archives: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

If you find a place of origin in Ireland you can then search church records. Do you know what religion Alice was?

Most Catholic records are held locally - One site which might be of use is - http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/ - where you can ?browse? an overview of available records per county. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for possible assistance.

 

Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870-are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/.  The Anglican Record Project is has created an index to their records: http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/AngRecord/bunclodyunionindex.pdf

Presbyterian registers are held in three main locations: in local custody, in the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm and at the Presbyterian Historical Society http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com in Belfast. PRONI has microfilm copies of almost all registers in Northern Ireland and also lists of records held by the Presbyterian Historical Society. For the rest of Ireland, almost all records are in local custody. It can difficult to locate these as many congregations in the South have moved, amalgamated, or simply disappeared over the last sixty years.

 

You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp  or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64) http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/     or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) https://familysearch.org/        

The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive.

Unfortunately Julie, John Kelly would be a very common name for the time period you are researching. Finding Alice's Mothers name may help you narrow the search for sites such as Familysearch.org.

 

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