Timothy Madden in Kinsale

CorkKinsale (Cork)

I just found your amazing website and wanted to post asap. After several years of searching for my Irish ancestors, namely my gr gr grandfather, Timothy Madden, I am still hitting brick walls, and hoping someone here can help. I recently found a strong possibility and would like to see if this is my ancestor. Here is what I know about this Timothy Madden:

Timothy Madden b. 1802.

On April 9, 1827, Timothy was convicted of stealing clothes and sent to Australia for 7 years. Convict records list:

Native Place: Kinsale

Place of Trial: CountyCork

Physical Description: 5 ft, 1 1/2 in., brown hair, grey eyes, ruddy complexion, scar on ball of left hand and missing tooth right side upper jaw.

He arrived in Sydney Cove, AUS on 8 Nov 1827 (ship - Eliza II)

Religion: Catholic

Certificate of Freeedom: received 17 Oct 1834 Certificate # 34/1394; Prisoner # 27/2466)

The following is documented information on my grgr grandfather in the USA:

1835 - Timothy Madden is found in Bangor, Maine, USA. Married Mary Dougherty 1836 in Bangor, Maine. Worked as a farmer and a stone mason (can find no other Madden relations in Bangor). They had 8 children in Bangor from 1836-1852 - Ellen, Julia Ann, Stephen F, Abigail A, Hugh T, John, Mary, and Elizabeth;

1853 moved to East Boston, Massachusetts USA; had 3 children - James William, Catherine F, and Margaret Theresa. Occupation - stone mason

1868 - died 11 Oct 1868; buried Holyhood Cemetery, Brookline, Mass., USA

Parents: Stephen and Julia Madden

I would so appreciate any info on the Timothy Madden in Ireland from 1802 to 1827. (confirmation of parents' names, siblings, date/place of birth, etc.)

Thanks for any help you may provide!

-Kathie Madden Gerecke

Kgerecke

14 years ago

Hi Kathie,

Thank you for your message. It is obvious that you have put a lot of work into your family history!

Did you know that Irish Genealogy have started a project to upload church records to their websites free of charge? Only a small number of counties have been covered and some parts of Cork, including Kinsale. You can search this websites here:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Unfortunately, records for the parish do not begin until 1805 which is too late for Timothy?s birth, but hopefully some other records pertaining to the family.

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Cork%20South-West&parish=Kinsale&churchid=73

It may also be an idea to expand your search to neighbouring parishes as during 19th century new Catholic parishes were created so starting dates can sometimes be misleading.

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/corkswrc.htm

You could also check for record of the family in the land acts pertaining to Ireland in the 19th century. There are two:

The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-1838) found at http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

and Griffith?s Valuation (1848-1864) found at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

Some other websites that you may find useful are:

The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

Genealogy links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/cork/index.html

Failte Romhat: www.failteromhat.com

Family Search: www.familysearch.org

You could also try contacting Skibbereen Heritage Centre for assistance, however a fee may apply. Here is their email address: skibbheritage1@gmail.com

I hope some of these are helpful and give you some ideas of where else you can search for information. Please be patient - as our programme has only begun to rollout across the island of Ireland and volunteers in some areas may not yet be organized.

Kind regards,

Genealogy Support

IrelandXO member

14 years ago

Timothy Madden in Kinsale

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