The Noonans of Kildorrery

Hi Miriam

Thank you for taking the time to answer my query.

 

Yes, I have the details of the marriage of John Noonan and Johanna Duane. I have the transcription also. I also have details of their children's baptisms. Their son Patrick married a Bridget Ryan and their son Michael (b. 1861) turns up in Scotland. He marries a Mary Dobbin (née Doonan) in Cleland, Lanarkshire in 1893. The have a child Bridget (b. 1898) and live in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire with Mary's children from her first marriage. They all appear in the Scotland Census (1901) living in Cambuslang. Michael is a coal miner. Michael Noonan, I have since discovered, turns up in a Valuation Roll at the same address in 1905. Of his family there is no mention. Nor is there a mention of them or Michael after that date in any records. As you say, they seem to have moved elsewhere though I can't find any mention on any passenger / immigration list. That is why I thought that perhaps they had returned to Ireland. Then again, perhaps they moved to England?

 

Thanks so much for the information concerning the slider tool on the Griffith's Valuation Maps. The reason I asked was that the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh offers the same facility online with Scotland's maps. I look forward to investigating this further when I have more time. I would so like to have a definite line of enquiry before visiting County Cork.

 

Thanking you once again Miriam

 

Michael A. Nolan

I also have a Nolan of Longford (Ballymahon) connection.  My Nolan married a Yorke, any connections?

Hi reets

Much of my line of Nolans in Longford is speculative but of my great-great grandfather's family I have marriage and baptismal certificates of which I can be pretty certain. This direct line is a William Nolan who married a Mary Carr on 6th October 1844 in the Parish of Templemichael / Ballymacormick (Longford Town). I believe the Chapel stood where there is presently a Family Centre behind The Cathedral. According to Griffith's Valuation, William may have come from the Townland of Caldragh whilst Mary's father, John, had holdings in the Townland of Aghareagh. What is certain is that they brought into the world a family of at least nine children between the years 1848 - 1863. Among these children was my great-grandfather James, baptised in either the same little Chapel that I mentioned, or the, as yet incomplete, Cathedral of Saint Mel, on the 6th October 1852. The name Yorke has not surfaced in any of the certificates that I have but then I have not investigated any of my great-grandfather's siblings, apart from Gerard - both of whom settled here in Wishaw, Scotland around the 1870s.

 

 

 

My Margaret Nolan married Francis Yorke 1835 parish of Ardagh and Moydow

 

My great-great grandfather's 'first' born was Maragret (as on her Baptismal Record), or Margaret Nolan. She was baptised sometime in 1848. Irish naming conventions followed a pattern and the same names appeared in families from generation to generation. What I am saying is that your Margaret may have been my William's sister. Does The Marriage Record indicate the names of Margaret's parents? Were any witnesses named? Was it a Catholic Marriage? Was the officiating Priest named?

 

 

So it was a catholic marriage 26 Feb 1835, witnesses: Bryan Yorke & John Nolan. No parents recorded. The family lived in Carrrickedmond, Margaret was born abt 1809 and died Ballymahon, Longford 1883.

Sorry Reets, not even the witnesses are the same. At my William's marriage the officiating Priest was Father O'Donohue, and the witnesses were Nicholas Skelly and Mary Duffey. Likewise no parents were mentioned. I checked Griffith's Valuation (maybe you have done so) a Thomas Nolan and a John Yorke had holdings in the Parish of Ardagh. Griffith's was a little latter than your marriage of Margaret and Francis but possible family members. Another, Thomas Yorke had a holding in the Parish of Shrule in the Townland of Ballymahon. 

My maiden name is Donna Marie Noonan from the line of (Noonan, Richard- Barbara Poisson) -(Noonan, Ernest -Rose Florence) (Noonan, William and Eliza Joanna Caldbeck) (Noonan, Patrick- Rosa McCauley) and I tend to believe now also to (Noonan, Patrick & Bridget Ryan).I am certain through Noonan-McCauley with docmentation. It makes sense since that Patrick Noonand & Bridget Ryan would be my great, great grandafther, Patrick Noonan-McCauley parents as they immigrated to Ste Agathe, Quebec, Canada where they are all interred.  If correct (Noonan, Patrick-Ryan, Bridget H) had (1) Patrick Noonan (1828-1904) wed to Rosa Gillen McCauley* (my third great grandparents) ; (2) James Noonan (1805-1891);  (3) John Noonan (1835) wed to Margaret Crozier; (4) Margaret Noonan (1837-1898); (5) Catherine Noonan (1839-1909) wed to John Ryan -7 children; (6) David Noonan (1844-1844) and Bridget Noonan ( 1845-1927)- the majority all interred in Ste Agathe Catholic Church Cemetery in Ste Agathe, Quebec, Canada.  From William Noonan -Eliza Caldbeck they ended up in Concord, New Hampshire.  I have eight siblings and an extensive family in New Hampshire.  It has been a challenged trying to get further info for my Noonan family.