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Maloney family from Glanworth to Massachusetts in 1848

CorkGlanworth (Cork)

My 3rd great-grandfather, David Maloney/Molony (b15 Jan 1805) took his family in 1848 and left via Cork, to come to America.  He settled in South Hadley, Hampshire County, Massachusetts and farmed there for the next 30 years.  He brought with him his 2nd wife Julia and children - David (b1830), Mary (b1832), Jane (b1834), Patrick (b1842), Catherine (b1844).  The first 3 were children of his first wife, Catherine (last name Koach?).

On David's declaration to become a citizen he signed his name David Molony, but his sons always spelt it Maloney.  I don't know if or when it was changed.  On his death certificate his parents names are listed as David & Margaret Maloney.  He gives his location of birth as Glanworth, County Cork, Ireland

I'm pretty positive it's my David Maloney who is buried at Saint Benedicts Cemetery, Springfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts, USA. 

A mystery is David's gravestone.  It simply states David Maloney Jan 14, 1882, Aged 77 yrs BUT above his name is a James Maloney Deid Sept 23, 1873, Aged (unreadable) yrs.
I have not been able to find a Massachusetts record of this James, so who is he and what is the connection to David.  Someone allowed David's name to be added to the headstone and the cemetery doesn't have any record of who he is.

If anyone has ideas on this family, I'd love to know.  My son and some cousins have visited Ireland a few time, but never in the Glanworth area as they didn't know what area in Cork we came from. 

You can email me at dinkydear@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Billie

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Hi Billie,

I've tried a variety of sources to try to find your Maloney / Molony / Roach people but haven't had much luck!

The mostly reliable www.rootsireland.ie/ only has a record of a David Molony father David but mother not Margaret born 1810 in Cork but not in Glanworth parish.

I suspect Catherine was Catherine Roach - a much more common name and the K would look lke an R to a transcriber. There are 10 Catherine Roaches born in Cork 1805 + - 5 years on rootsireland.

 I tried to track them in the Tithe Applotments (free to search online) and Griffiths Valuation and have attached these. there are also Roaches on these records in Cork.

There are 116 Molonys in the 1901 census and 89 in the 1911 in Cork; 27 & 5 Roaches

The censuses are free to search.

The irish phone book has only 2 listings for Molony in Cork & 1 Roach (no Maloneys)

I'll send the downloads to your other email as they won't upload on this site.

Col

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Hi Col!

It's amazing that you found what you did so fast!

As I posted, when I was able to get a copy of David's papers, he listed Glanworth... but did he list it because it was the place of his birth, or was he just putting down where he was living before immigrating?  It's a clue, but that's it.

David's youngest son Patrick gave the information for his death certificate, but there again, he could have made a mistake on his grandparents names as he was only 6 years old when they came over. 

As to David's first wife's name - Roach does sound better.  The first 3 children all gave their mother's name as Catherine, but her last name was transcribed as Koash, which other family told me must have been Koach.  I wasn't finding that name in Ireland, and didn't pick up on the K looking like an R to a transcriber.  Thank you for that.

David's son David (b 1830) is my line and he married a Margaret Warner in 1851.  Her family came from Bantry and there seems to be more information available on them as her family owned businesses in Bantry and there are more researchers working her line.  I assumed with David being a farmer, he would be much harder to trace, but with my maiden name of Maloney, I have to try!

I didn't know that Ireland had census records from before 1919 but I will have to try and do some more digging.  I also wondered about church marriage and birth records.  If I could find the birth of the children, that could lead me to David & Catherine.  If he was born in 1810 instead of 1805 he would have had his oldest son at the age of 20, would this have been common or rare for that time period and life?

I appreciate what you found for me, and the time you spent, and I'll keep looking.  Even if I never find out exactly where David came from, someday I'll visit the areas where he most likely lived and that might have to be enough.  The mystery of it all just keeps pulling at me!

Billie

 

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