Robert Fitzgerald and Ellen Desmond of Ballynoe married in 1826. I know virtually nothing of their origins, I've simply found their marriage record so far. They lived in Ballynoe and Ballinhassig when they had Julia and Ellen. They went on to live in several other places around Cork city and near the city. I suspect he was either a tenant farmer or farm laborer, but I don't know. If these facts sound at all familiar, please let me know.
Hi . . Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out . .
Because your query was not being picked up on . . by a local Cork volunteer . .
I had a quick search on your behalf . . even though my knowledge of Cork and surrounds is scarce . .
Here is what I found . .
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The Volunteer for Douglas Cork . . is . . Thomas Ryan . .
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Ellen's marriage . . you know already . . but here is what is found on Ancestry.Com
Ellen Desmond
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name:Ellen DesmondGender:FemaleEvent Type :Marriage Residence Place:Ballinrea Marriage Date:7 Apr 1826 Marriage Place:Douglas, Cork, Ireland Parish Variants:Ballygarvan, Douglas and Ballygarvan Diocese:Cork and RossSpouse:Robt Fitzgerald
If the bride . . was being married in her home place . . then. . Ballygarvan Douglas . . may be an important pointer
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Julia's Birth
Julia Fitzgerald
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name:Julia FitzgeraldBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1827Baptism Date:18 Jan 1827 Baptism Place :Douglas, Cork, IrelandResidence Place:BallinoeParish Variants:Ballygarvan, Douglas and BallygarvanDiocese:Cork and RossFather:Robt FitzgeraldMother:Nelly Desmond
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Ellen's Birth
Ellen Fitzgerald
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name:Ellen FitzgeraldBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1829 Baptism Date:2 Jan 1829 Baptism Place:Douglas, Cork, IrelandResidence Place:BallinhassigParish Variants:Ballygarvan, Douglas and BallygarvanDiocese:Cork and RossFather:Robt Fitzgerald Mother:Nelly Desmond
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ELLIN (Sr) . . this MIGHT be your Ellin's Birth recording. . . in BALLYGARVIN. . in 1819
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First name(s)EllenLast nameDesmondBirth year-Baptism year 1819 Baptism date28 Feb 1819 ResidenceBallygarvan ParishDouglasAlternative parish names Ballygarvan, Douglas and Ballygarvan DioceseCork and RossCountyCorkCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)DanlFather's last nameDesmondMother's first name(s)JuliaMother's last nameMcCarthyRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland link http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633274#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptismRecord setIreland Roman Catholic Parish BaptismsCategoryLife Events (Birth, Marriage, Death)SubcategoryBirths & baptismsCollections fromIreland
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FITZGERALD . . . is a really numerous SURNAME in Ireland . . especially close to a City . .
for that reason . . I was unable to find anything worthwhile . .
HOPE this of help to you . . .
Cheers . . . Eamonn.
OH Eamon thank you so much. The lead on Ellen and the town of origin is so helpful. When I look at Irish records I always think to myself about the ODDS. What are the ODDS that you would have, for example, my ggg grandfather Andrew Fitzgerald AND his wife Margaret Callahan AND his son Andrew Fitzgerald in any given place? And in this case Andrew Fitzgerald had stated on an American marriage record that Andrew and Margaret C. were his parents names. So the "odds" worked in my favor.
Since all I know about Ellen or "Nelly" was her husband's name (Robert)and maybe that she was from Cork and near to the city, I have to guess that she came from a place near where she married given the lifestyle in Ireland at the time....unless she didn't. You see the aforementioned Andrew was from Macroom where there are also LOTS of Desmonds. And I suspect Ellen's daughter Mary, born in 1831 in Monees (Moneygarry) was actually Mary Catherine, my g grandmother. AND that Catherine and her future husband Andrew F. could have been distantly or maybe not so distantly cousins.
I'm looking actually for a Catherine Fitzgerald born to Robert and Ellen between 1830 and 1834 in that same general area. So far I've only found Mary. I've been using the Roman Catholic parish records that recently became available online.
I will take a closer look at what you found and see what else I can piece together.
C
This is what another researcher found for me.
Eamon, if I use the birthdate of 1819 or 1816 (I found two records for an Ellen Desmond) in this parish, it puts her waaaay too young to have had the children I found.