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Dancey Family , Rakeevan, Bailieborough ,Co Cavan

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I am actively searching my Dancey family in Rakeevan,Co.Cavan. What I know is this........

John Edward Dancey b 1803 in possibly Co. Monaghan married a lady by the name of Margaret Caffrey (although we have yet to find any proof). He died in Rakeevan 26 March 1849. He was the father of the following children.
 
Edward James b 22 Aug 1830 d in New York State 1911

James  b 6 Jan 1832 Curkish d in Illinois USA 1904 (we think he immigrated to Canada first with his brother Samuel)

Matty b 14 Dec 1833 Rakeevan unknown death date 

Susan b 25 Oct 1835 Rakeevan unkown death date 

Samuel Stanley b 20 August 1839  d 11 Jan 1910 Ingoldsby, Ontario, Canada (he is my Great Great Grandfather)

I do not know if there are any more children, however I am assuming that there were. They were Church of Ireland believers. Farmers from everything we have found. I am searching for anything that can be found. Who married who, who had children and where and when. Specifically I am trying to find proof of who John Edward married, and who his parents were, either in Co. Cavan or Co. Monaghan. This brick wall has been in  place for a number of years and I would like to finally break through. Thank you in advance for any information

Lori

 

Lori_Gee

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Not sure if you have this info....As per RootsIreland, John Dancy and Margaret Dancy  of Rakeevan had at least four children baptized in the COI.

 

               Church Baptism  Dancy    Edward 1830      Co. Cavan           

               Church Baptism  Dancey  Matty    1833      Co. Cavan           

               Church Baptism  Dancy    Susan     1835      Co. Cavan           

               Church Baptism  Dancey  Samuel  1839      Co. Cavan           

glanvil3@aol.com

Here is the elusive marriage record (rootsireland)...

 

Marriage:            11-Aug-1829                     

Parish / District: BAILIEBOROUGH                                            Co. Cavan

Husband                                                             Wife

Name:   John      Dancey                            Margaret Caffrey

Address:               Bailieboro Parish                             Bailieboro Parish

Denomination:   Church Of Ireland                            Church Of Ireland

                             

Husband's Father                             Wife's Father

Name:                  Dancey                                Caffrey                

Witness 1                                      Witness 2

Name:   John       Wilson                  Stir         Love

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glanvil3@aol.com

Thank you so much!! Do you know where I can get the actual document? Oh I think I will get a 24 hr sub until I know how much I will use it. 

Lori_Gee

See April 3rd message and responses   https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/dancey-family

Lori:

Roots Ireland will not have a copy of the original marriage record. You could try the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library

Regarding John Edward's baptismal record, going back to 1803 is difficult. If he was from Bailieborough a record would not be available. There is no central searchable data base of C of I records other than what is available on Roots Ireland and John Dancey is not on Roots Ireland.

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

There is a duplicate copy of the original Bailieborough Church of Ireland records held in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast but as with the RCB Library set in Dublin, they are not on-line and a personal visit is required to view them.  

My guide to Church of Ireland records says that rootsireland only has “some years” for this parish ie not all the possible records.

The parish itself no longer has a copy of these older records. So your choices are between the originals in the RCB library and PRONI’s set which are a microfilm copy of the originals.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

I think my husband and I have to sit down and plan a trip to Ireland .......in the next couple of years. I have sent off to GRO an application for the marriage record of John Edward and Margaret. I will see what they say when they get back to me about payment, if they have the record. I thank you all for helping me. I appreciate it more than you know, 

Lori 

Lori_Gee

Lori:

GRO won't have a copy of the marriage record. Civil records for non-Catholic marriages start in 1845.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Lori,

As Roger has explained, this marriage was long before the state started to keep marriages records. The only record of it is in the church register which as I mentioned before is held in the RCB library in Dublin and another copy in PRONI Belfast.

With an exact date and parish, I am fairly sure PRONI will copy it for you (for a fee).

PRONI:

2 Titanic Boulevard, Titanic Quarter, Belfast, Northern Ireland BT3 9HQ

Phone: +4428 9053 4800

Fax: +4428 9025 5999

Email: proni@communities-ni.gov.uk

 

However do not expect much more than what Patricia has already found.  In the early 1800s most marriage records just contained the couples names, the date and their 2 witnesses. Occasionally a townland or an occupation but little else. No parents names for example. The records in PRONI are on MIC1/252 and contain:

Baptisms, 1824-1985; marriages, 1809-1944; burials, 1809-1915; list of preachers, 1825-7; map of Lisnalea and Greagharue, Co. Cavan, 1809.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

               In the 1857 Griffith’s Valuation of Cavan, there was one head of household named Dancey/Dancy in Rakeevan:

  • Griffith         Dancey Edward             Rakeevan         Bailieborough     Co. Cavan

In the Tithe Applotment Books, usually 1820s-1830s (no date given), there were two in Rakeevan:

  • Dancy    Richard Rakeevan            Bailieborough     Meath  
  • Dancy    John       Rakeevan            Bailieborough     Meath

See page here: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587401/004587401_00030.pdf

Perhaps Elwyn or Roger would explain why this is Meath and not Cavan?

 

I hope this helps.

glanvil3@aol.com

Patricia,

I think these tithe records have been filed under the wrong county by mistake. They should be under Cavan. I have come across this once before with some records that related to another county.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Many thanks, Elwyn.

glanvil3@aol.com

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