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Joseph Kinnear

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Arrived in Auckland on 18th October 1860. 189 passengers. They paid their own passage, sailed from Liverpool 15th June 1860 & their agent was A. B. Shiling.Joseph Kinnear is my Great Great Grandfather. His daughter Elizabeth Jane Walker (nee Kinnear) emigrated to New Zealand in 1855/56. She and her husband purchased a sizeable block of land in what is now Auckland City.

I have located Elizabeth's death certificate but only her father's name, Joseph Kinnear, followed by a question mark are recorded on that form.

I have managed to locate the following information from a publication which is on file at the Auckland City Library ...

By the death of Mrs Elizabeth Jane Walker, on Sunday, November 30th, Point Chevalier lost one of its oldest residents. Mrs Walker was born at Portadown, County Armagh, Ireland, on June 9th, 1827, and had therefore reached the great age of 97 years.

She arrived by the sailing ship Northern Bride[1] in company with her husband, the late Richard Walker, their infant son[2], and her husbands brother, Mr Thomas Henry Walker. The population of Auckland at the time being 7 800.

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Peter

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Peter,

I found a marriage between Richard Walker and Elizabeth Jane Kinnear. It was in 1859 (so the arrival date of 1855/6 in NZ seems incorrect). They married on 18.4.1859 in Knocknamuckly Church of Ireland I Seagoe parish, Co Armagh. Richard was 26, a bachelor, a farmer, and lived in the townland of Kernan. His father was John Walker, parish clerk.  Elizabeth Jane Kinnear was 22, a spinster, occ farmer and lived in Crossmacaughley. Her father Joseph was also a farmer. Witnesses were John Walker and Joseph R Kinnear.

An 1859 marriage fits with an 1860 arrival in NZ.

Griffiths Valuation for 1864 lists John Walker (clerk) on plot 31 in Kernan, which was just under 5 acres. (There were several other Walker households nearby, including a different John Walker, so they all may be related). That whole area today has been built on and is now a residential estate in the new town of Craigavon. Kernan Park, Craigavon marks the approximate area.

Griffiths also lists Joseph Kinnear’s farm in Crossmacahilly (standardized spelling). Crossmacahilly is near Portadown, which Elizabeth’s obit said was her place of birth. Joseph’s farm was plot 1 which was just under 4 acres. Today that location is close to the Bluestone Rd, on the edge of Craigavon. Judging by a modern map, the access lane is gone suggesting the farmhouse has been demolished.

You can see where these properties were, using the maps on Griffiths Valuation. You can switch between the contemporaneous maps and a modern one using the slider bar on the top rh corner of the maps page:

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

You can then follow through to see what happened to those occupants, using the Valuation Revision records on the PRONI website. They go up to 1929:

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/proni

There were no Kinnears in Crossmacahilly by the 1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Kernan/Crossmacahilly/

There were 3 Walker households in Kernan in 1901. You should be able to work out if any are related to yours by using the Valuation Revision records to identify each one.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Kernan/Kernan/

The suffix (clerk) is deleted from John Walker’s name in the Valuation Revision records around 1864, suggesting he no longer lived there – died perhaps - and had been replaced by another John Walker (presumably a relation).

Joseph Kinnear’s name in Crossmacahilly changes to “reps of” around 1895, which indicates he had died about that time.

Statutory birth registration only started in Ireland in 1864. Prior to that you need to rely on church baptism records. Assuming both families were Church of Ireland, there are 2 churches in Seagoe parish. Knocknamuckly (where the marriage took place) has records from 1838. Prior to that the family probably used Seagoe church. It has records from 1672 (with some gaps). Neither set of records is on-line yet, but there are copies in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. A personal visit is required to view them.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Hello Elwyn

Thank you very much for posting the information you have. It is most informative!

Unfortunately there was a falling out between Elizabeth and her parents and so they left Ireland and came to New Zealand where, on New Year's Day 1860 they left their hotel in Auckland city and moved some kilometres further up the harbour to Pt Chevalier where they farmed. A large section of their land is now parkland and the home for Auckland Hockey. This area is called Walker Park and there is a Walker Road and the beach they lived by is called Walker Beach. Properties in Pt Chevalier now sell for around $1.5 million.

I have uploaded a MS Word file which is a copy of a letter which my mother's cousin [my mother and Richard were E. J. Walker's grandchildren] got his secretary to send a copy of to my mother. I am thankful that I copied it as when my mother moved into a residential home I lost track of the original. My mother, like her grandmother, died aged 97 years.

The Hon. Richard Thompson was a member of the upper house in Australia and was in line to replace Sir Robert Menzies as Prime Minister of Australia. However Richard died of cancer in 1964.

Richard Walker's brother, THomas Henry, who came to New Zealand with Richard and family. He joined NZ Colonial Defence Force when war broke out with the Maoris. He was General Camerson's [British Army] despatch rider. Unfortunately he was blinded and went back to Auckland where he became a member of the Auckland Roads Board, a committee responsible for the establish of roading throughout the Auckland Province. He had a black hoese which took him to and from Auckland each day. He was awarded a medal and I have been lucky to be left that.

The Walkers were well educated and had a love of literature. Gaining a university education was of prime importance for both the men and the women! 

In 1900 51% of Auckland's population were of Irish descent. These were mainly Protestant and middle class. However, a number of the Walker children married Roman Catholics of Irish heritage. One was Mary Kennedy who was one of the Kennedy [John etc] family from Rathkeale in Ireland. I have actually met a member of that family who still lived in the family home.

I have quite a number of Irish descendents who I still need to find out more about; family research certainly takes time. Unfortunately most of them came to New Zealand a long time ago. The first in 1840 who arrived with Governor Hobson who is responsible for setting up the Treaty of Waitangi by which Maori gave sovereignty over NZ to the British Crown.

Thank you for the information you have provided for me; it is a tremendous help.

Regards

Peter

 

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