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Wilson Family Antrim

I am searching for the family of David Legg Wilson 1838-1922 his wife Anna Maria Wilson (maiden name also Wilson) 1848-1916 married on 15th Jun 1870 in Ballynure Presbyterian Church Country Antrim. I am mainly interested in their 4 sons (one maybe my Grandfather - family found and proved through DNA)

Children: Margaret 1871-1947; George 1873-1848 died San Mateo Cal; Mary Stonehouse 1874-1950; Jane (Jean) 1876-1829; Albert 1877-1952 died Oakland, Alameda, Cal; Annie 1879-1900; William Park Blair 1887 - 1972 died Takapuna Auckland; Herbert John 1889-1947

I am mainly looking at the time period from 1918 - 1923. Any help with Passenger lists to and from Ireland or where the male sons lived during that time. I am trying to place them in and around Belfast when my Dad James Orr Haire was conceived and born - 26th Dec 1920 died 1990 Australia His biological mother was Sarah Anne Orr (My Grandmother) 1889-1950. Many thanks in anticipation. Regards Joan Sparks Australia

Joan Sparks

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Joan,

I can see from the 1920 birth for James Orr Haire that his parents were shown as James Haire & Sarah Orr. They married in 1911:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09945/5615590.pdf

The only children I can see for them are a daughter Margaret born Belfast 6.4.1912 and then James in 1920. Plus they had a stillborn male on 19.12.1918 who is buried in the City Cemetery (public ground). James died 2nd Feb 1961 and Sarah 21 Feb 1950. Both are buried in Dundonald Cemetery grave C6 387.

Turning now to the Wilson family, this is David and family in the 1911 census:

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Eden/Middle_Division/193024/

Note that it says he had 9 children, 2 of whom were dead by 1911. So there’s apparently one more to find, probably registered in the Larne registration area.

In 1901 Albert & William are still living at home:

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/Middle_Division/991657/

Here’s David’s probate abstract (from the PRONI wills site):

Probate of the Will with one Codicil of David Legg Wilson late of Middle Division Carrickfergus County Antrim Farmer who died 11 April 1922 granted at Belfast to Herbert John Wilson Farmer Effects £262

The will itself is in PRONI. It could tell you where most of his children were at that date. If you go in person you can view it free. Otherwise you may need to pay PRONI or a researcher to copy it for you.

Herbert looks to have inherited the farm and married a Mary:

Probate abstract: Wilson Herbert John of Castleview Milebush Middle Division Carrickfergus county Antrim farmer died 13 March 1947 at Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Probate Belfast 10 October to Mary Wilson the widow and William James Haggan flesher. Effects £3835 1s. 9d.

No sign of Albert in the 1911 census. Had he already left for the USA? George & William are very common names, and very hard to trace without additional information.

There was no census in Ireland in 1921 (civil disorder).

Regarding passenger lists, none were kept when folk left. On intercontinental journeys eg to Oz or America or Canada, lists were compiled for the authorities in the port of arrival. Those records can be found on the usual sites eg Ancestry and findmypast. If however some of the family went to Scotland or England for work (as tens of thousands did at that time) then no passenger records exist. It was (and still is) just a short domestic journey. You could try searching the Scottish and English 1921 censuses but with a common name like Wilson it’ll be a needle in haystack.

I’d start by getting a copy of that 1922 will for David Legg Wilson.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Just confirming...DNA indicated that James Orr Haire's father was not Jaimes Haire, his IegaI father, but a WiIson? Thanks.

glanvil3@aol.com

Hi and thanks for the reply. Yes DNA showed that James Haire as listed on the birth certificate was not his biological father. After assistance from a cousin who is versed in DNA she discovered that the Wilson Family is definitely related to me and Sarah Anne Orr is definitely related to me. I will follow up on your suggestions above. Do you have any suggestions about anyone who can assist with understanding the DNA links. We have built a tree on Ancestry called the Wilson of Ireland Family Tree and my relative who lives in the USA (I have never met her) has worked on Thru Lines but it is beyond my understanding. Regards Joan

Joan Sparks

The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA project. http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

Their Chair - Martin McDowell - is an expert and lectures on DNA. He does classes and also takes questions on interpreting DNA results. He does Zoom as well as e-mail.

If you join the project you may also get more local matches.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thankyou 🧬

Joan Sparks

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