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Which Parish in County Derry and County Donegal?

This is the two marriages of Paul Connor, both of which were registered in Glasgow, Scotland. Both of his spouses were from Donegal but unfortunately I cannot read any of the parishes but am sure local knowledge should be able to do what I can't.

Can someone out there decipher the priests handwriting? Thank you.

augaire@gmail.com

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I would be reasonably sure that Paul comes from the parish of Maghera in Co. Derry. There are plenty of Connors in the parish in Griffiths Valuation c 1860. The RC parishes records start in 1841 and are on-line free on the nli site.

https://registers.nli.ie

I can’t see a parish in Donegal that fits the wording on either marriage record.  Here’s link to map that shows them all:

https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/counties/rcmaps/donegalrc.php#maps/

Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of Donegal can assist.

If Paul died in Scotland 1885 onwards, his death certificate should contain his parents names and occupations.

 

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

In your first photo, the ending is hard to read, but the parish in Derry appears to be Magherafelt (in Irish, Machaire Fíolta), with the ending of the parish name running into the word "Ireland" which follows it.  You can find the online (Catholic) parish records for that parish (which go back to the 1830's) at this lilnk: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0230

You can also find more info about that parish at this link:  https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/magherafelt/

The parish name in Donegal is also a bit hard to read, but my guess is that it is meant to be Stranorlar (in Irish, Srath an Urláir), misspelled as what lookss like "Strathnorland" (there may have been a communication problem, especially if the bride spoke Irish and didn't know how to spell the parish name).   Unfortunately, the NLI does not have online records for that parish, but you can find more info about the parish at this link:  https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/stranorlar2/

In the second photo, the first Donegal parish mentioned appears to be Maharran, but I haven't found any such parish in that county.  However, there is a townland named Magherahaan in the parish of Raphoe, and that parish happens to be right next to the parish of Stranorlar mentioned above.  Note that, when pronounced by local people (Catholic or Protestant), the "gh" in Magherahaan would not have a "g" sound, but be closer to an "h:" sound, or even be hard to hear at all.  There are actually quite a few townlands in that parish which begin with Magher-, but that one seems the likeliest, in terms of how someone in Britain might hear the name when pronounced by a person from the area.  If you want to check out the whole list of townlands in Donegal, you can find it at this link: https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/

There appear to be only limited parish records for Raphoe, anyway, which you can find here:  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1022

and you can find more info about Magherahaan at this link:  https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/raphoe-north/raphoe/raphoe/magherahaan/

I can't make out the final parish name, though it appears to end in -menny.  I haven't found any likely match in Donegal among parish or townland names, but someone else may be able to help.

 

kevin45sf@yahoo.com

Not sure whether you noticed, but what appears to be Paul’s marriage to Nancy Murphy appears in both the Church of Scotland (ie Presbyterian) records for 29.5.1818 in Baldernock (just outside Glasgow), as well as in the RC parish of St Andrews in Glasgow on 17.6.1819.  Presumably he was making doubly sure. But, assuming it’s the same couple, you might want to check the Church of Scotland entry in case it provides any additional information.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

A huge thank you for everyone who took the time to reply and I have taken on board some of your suggestions, some of which tied in with my own thoughts.  The pronounciation I assumed to be close to Scots Gaelic but I still doubt if I have got it quite right!

Paul Connor married Nancy (Agnes) Murphy in 1818 in Baldernock, Stirlingshire and their marriage was recorded in Campsie Mission church which I was assured was the Catholic church.  I presume there may not have been a full time priest in that parish in the early years, as Scotland was very Presbyterian.  As records, other than the Established Church (i.e. Church of Scotland), have become more available it has become much easier to search for people of "other" religions e.g. Free Kirk, Methodist, Episcopalian, Catholic etc., though some are still with the original parishes.

I recently discovered Paul and Nancy's marriage was recorded in St. Andrew's Cathedral in Glasgow and this is where I obtained their Parish of Origin.  Similarly when I checked out the second marriage for Paul the "parish" helped me verify it was his second marriage.

Nancy therefore probably died between 1826 (birth of a child) and 1829 (date of second marriage).  The second wife died in 1855 but I have not, as yet, found Paul's death.

I have a few other avenues to try and find out more so I haven't given up yet!

Thank you again.  Good luck to everyone with their own research.

 

augaire@gmail.com

Papaver,

Hannah Connor’s death certificate in 1855 should tell you whether Paul was still alive at that date, and so which side of 1855 to search.  If he died before 1.1.1855 when death registration started in Scotland, then the chances are there will be no record to find.  In my experience of the RC church in Ireland, it rarely kept burial records. I wouldn’t be surprised if Scotland was the same.

I can see what looks to be Hannah’s death in Baldornock aged 60, mmn Gubbin, but I presume you already have those details.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

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