Warmington and Cornett families of Armagh

Elwyn, 

Thank you for your speedy reply and the information.  Hopefully someday we'll be able to travel again.  I'd love to see where my great grandfather Gibson was born and where my great great grandfather James died.

Wishing you well,

Kaye

Hi Elwyn,  

I have a couple of additional questions:

1) My great grandfather Gibson Warmington was born in Armagh, Ireland on 24 Dec 1842 to James and Alice Warmington as noted in family records (handwritten letter).  Where might I find a link to document his birth and baptismal certificates?

2) Gibson's father, James Warmington, a farmer, died 27 Jan. 1894 in Tullyvallen, Arm. Ire. which I have documented by a will read on 4 July 1894 after the death of James.  I am interested where James might be buried so I might visit his grave or the church where James and his family attended.  Where might I find a link to his death and burial information? 

Thank you for your help in getting me around these roadblocks in my family research.  

May you be safe, may you be well,

Kaye Campbell

Thanks Elwyn.  You are extremely helpful and very thorough.  I appreciate all the information.  

I do have Gibson's death certificate which unfortunately only lists his mother's first name "Alice" with no surname. I shall proceed with your suggestion to contact the Scottish Presbyterian church where Gibson Warmington married Agnes Carr.  

You have given me many new leads to break down the roadblock of finding Gibson's baptism record.  I have much to process.  I am grateful for all your assistance.  

K

Elwyn, 

Thanks for directing me to the Scotlandspeople repository. 

Gibson Warmington's wife, Agnes Carr was baptised and her parents John Carr and Jean Ross were buried is Rescobie Parish in Forfar.  Thanks for the tip which yielded this information:

06 Dec 1847 • Rescobie,Angus,Scotland [Baptism at Presbyterian church]: CARR, AGNES; JOHN CARR/JEAN ROSS; F; 06/12/1847;[church number] 317/20 73; Rescobie [found in Old Parish Records]

8 Jan 1867 is when their daughter Agnes was born in Scotland according to her Idaho and Washington marriage records.  Gibson was abt.24 years old and Agnes Carr was abt. 20 years old. It would seem negligent for young parents to not have their infant baptized before undertaking a dangerous cross-Atlantic trip.  I haven't made a separate search for their daughter's (Agnes Warmington) baptism record at Scotlandspeople.com because I expected a search under the names Agnes Carr and Gibson Warmington would find their infant.  I also did not looked at ship records for baptism on board. 

What I am searching for is the surname of Gibson's mother Alice which we hoped would be on Gibson Warmington marriage record to Agnes Carr.  I misguided you on Alice's and Gibson's mother/son relationship at some point.  My apologies. 

The death certificate of Gibson Warmington states that he was born in Armagh, Ireland to James Warmington, and Alice unknown surname.   

The obituary in the Chicago Tribune for Gibson's mother, Alice [Warmi]Ngton indicates she died at home in Chicago.   Alice may have come to Chicago with her two sons because she was a widow.  She would have been 63 years old when she made the trip from Glasgow to Chicago.  

DIED 25 Nov 1872 • At her residence,198 West Polk-st., [Chicago, IL] Alice, relict of James Warmington, and mother of James and Gibson Warmington, West Monroe st., age 68 years. 

Friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend. Carriages will leave the above address at 1130 a. m. for Rose Hill Cemetery to-day.

Unfortunately Alice's death certificate is not available possibly due to a second Chicago Fire in 1874. The cemetery where the obituary indicates Alice was buried also has no record of her burial.

This looked promising for Gibson's mother.  This would be two years before Alice left Ireland in the summer of 1867.  Gibson and James were in Glasgow in 1861 according to the Scottish Census so would not be listed here.  John, Sarah and Phillip Warmington are listed on the same page with her.  

General Valuation of Ireland. Dublin, Ireland: Irish Microforms Ltd., 1978. National Archives, Dublin and Public Record Office, Belfast: Occupier:Alice Warmington: 1865; Residence Location:Armagh, Newtownhamilton, Tullyvallan

 No evidence indicates that Gibson's father James Warmington immigrated to the USA. 

My mother said that Agnes Carr and Gibson Warmington married in Scotland on 16 Dec 1865. Like you, I found no marriage records for Agnes Carr and Gibson Warmington on the Scotlandspeople site.  I've found no evidence of their marriage in Scotland at the church where Agnes Carr was baptized where I expected to find her marriage record to Gibson Warmington. 

Inference 1: Gibson married Agnes in Ireland or in the USA. I've found no evidence of their marriage in USA.  

Inference 2: Gibson and Agnes didn't marry.   Might not having a marriage certificate be the reason for the records of their family in the US are not from a Presbyterian church? Evidence: The Warmingtons attended the Episcopal church in the US.  There's no record of Presbyterian background before recent research for church records in Ireland and Scotland.  Possible they changed church affiliation in USA to cover missing marriage certificate.

8 Jan 1867 is when their daughter Agnes was born in Scotland according to her Idaho and Washington marriage records.  I haven't made a separate search for their daughter's (Agnes Warmington) baptism record because I expected a search under the names Agnes Carr and Gibson Warmington would find her.  I've not looked at ship records for baptism on board.  It would seem negligent of young parents to not have their infant baptized before undertaking a dangerous cross-Atlantic trip.

Scottish Timeline: 

In 1861, Gibson Warmington worked as a stone cutter for his brother James in Glasgow.  Gibson's residence per Scottish 1861 census was with his sister-in-law, Jemima and her child: Name: Gibson WarmingtonAge:18; Estimated birth year:abt 1843Relationship:Brother-in-law; Gender:Male; Where born:Armagh, Ireland; Registration Number:644/7Registration district:MiltonCivil Parish:Glasgow St  GeorgeCounty:LanarkshireAddress:11 Burnside St (back Tenement) Occupation:Stone Mason;  no James listed  Question: Where was Gibson's brother James?

In 1861 Agnes Carr lived in Rescobie, Angus, Scotland;Relation to Head of House: Daughter according to the Scottish 1861 Census. How Agnes Carr from a farm in Forfar met the Irish stone mason Gibson Warmington in Glasgow and marry in 1865? Research:  Might Agnes have worked in a factory in Glasgow?  Are there records of the names of factory workers? Are there records of stone masons in Glasgow or Forfar where Agnes lived?

 

Gibson Warmington, his wife Agnes Carr, and their infant Agnes arrived in Philadelphia, PA per my mother: Immigration12 Aug 1867 • Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; Stopped at Philadelphia; 25 day passage; arrived in Chicago 12 Sept 1867 per notes by Cornelia Warmington Rauk. 

Dear Kaye,

My late Granny Mary was born a Cornett. Her father was John Cornett of Tullyvallen, Armagh.

While we are not direct/blood relations, we are related by marriage. Your great aunt Jane Warmington married Alexander Cornett, who was my grandmother's first cousin twice removed. Of course, there's a possibility that we might be directly related a generation or two further back. My family history research on the Cornett side often shows siblings/cousins marrying each other in the small farminhg communities of Armagh.

I'd be delighted to exchange family photos/stories, and see if we can help each other with family history research.

Jenny

Dear Jenny, 

I'm delighted to correspond with a Warmington family researcher in Ireland. 

The easiest way for me and my cousins to exchange family photos and stories with you is on a private Facebook group called Gibson and Edith Warmington Family History.  My son and I started the group about a year ago.  We have some very active historians in the family who contribute research, stories, photos and organize reunions in this group.  Anyone is welcome to join the FB group by answering how they are related to Warmingtons and agreeing to be kind to one another;-)      

The direct line to the group is https://www.facebook.com/groups/1132225310467739 ;

Some of the Warmingtons have found connections with new relatives through DNA testing.  I know this isn't as common to do outside the US, but I'm curious if you or any of the Warmington family in Ireland might have done DNA testing with a family genealogy company like Ancestry or 23&Me?  

Looking forward to hearing from you soon,

Kaye