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Tyrrell family Line

Hello, 

My son and daughter will be in Roscommon area July 28th-August 5th. Hoping to do research.

A few years back I sent info from ancestry research to Mary Shelly with the Heritage Center along with a copy of the Boyle Parish I was informed she received the information. However she was unable to help me other than parish info for Roscommon, I was unable to proceed. I am at a cross roads.

I am trying to find great grandfather Patrick Tyrrell along with his spouse Bridget Sharklett.  I have no information on either of them. I can not find a birth certificate/ marriage certificate .They did get married in Ireland that is all I know but can not find a record of this. I do have baptism records on all of there children but no birth certificates. The first born was Catherine who was born in the Boyle Parrish in 1832 and the remaining children were born in the same place at two year intervals. Mary was the last child born in 1843

By 1858 there is no references of the Tyrell family  in Boyle, Roscommon . Where did they go? I have checked in trade manuals in the areas, fax growers, . I am getting lost on the computer with school records and work/poor houses. Any body willing to help or meet up? Would like to find out their dwelling.

My grandfather James Tyrell born 1829, in Boyle Parrish Roscommon came to the USA ,in 1847 and sent for his girlfriend Bridget Carney  . He died in 1908 in the USA .On his paperwork it states he became a US citizen. Bridget born 1837 (unsure where she was born) passed away in 1871. These are the two that we are mainly interested in however if you can get back further it would be amazing. 

Hoping to gather any information for my children,

My email is -hbcorn4th@msn.com

My daughter Debbie c email at thesoares1@gmail,com

My son Sean email-afcornman@aol.com

Ancestry.com is unable to find them either. 

Thank you for your time. 

Harold Cornforth

 

Harold

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Harold:

From what I can see, it is likely that the entire family left for America, probably in 1847.

I presume you have seen the Boyle parish register  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0548 There are records way back to the late 1700s. Also, Boyle RC parish has death records which many RC parishes do not. There are a few gaps in records and sometimes a marriage or baptism did not make it to the register.

I looked at the 1833 Tithe records for Boyle civil parish and found only one Tyrell record in Knockarush townland. The entry was for a widow Tyrell. The page at the link is very faint. You will need to magnify the image of the record. Widow Tyrell is the third record from the bottom. She was leasing around eight acres. This record may or not be a connection to your family but it is the only Tyrell record in the parish.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587408/004587408_00229.pdf

The 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listings do not show any Tyrell/Tyrrell records in Boyle civil parish. There were, however, many Sharkett records.

https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/roscommon/boyle.htm

I did search the subscription site Roots Ireland and there were no Boyle RC parish death records from 1843-1864 for a Bridget or Patrick Tyrell in that period. Civil registration started in 1864 and there were no good leads for a death of a Patrick or Bridget Tyrell in the Boyle area post 1864. These lack of records point to  emigration.

Have you tested your DNA?

Let me know if you have any questions.

Roger McDonnell

 

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hello Roger, thank you for your reply. Yes i have had my DNA tested and it is posted on my family tree on Ancestry. It is thecornforthfamily tree and it is open to anyone for the viewing ,Like you i believe they moved on, Australia and the states. But before they moved on they had to have had a dwelling in the parish of Boyle  in one of the townslands as all their children were baptisms in a Catholic church in Boyle. I am trying to find Patrick and Bridget dwelling, had to be a dwelling large enough for all the children ( 8 ) plus Patrick and Bridget. They still were in Boyle parish as their last child Mary's baptism was 10 April 1843.

Thank you again

Harold Tyrrell Cornforth

Harold

Harold:

The house they had in the 1830s/1840s may have been a mud hut with no windows just an entrance. I would not expect that any remains would exist almost 200 years later.

It was only post famine that homes became more substantial with stones and a thatched roof but most of those homes do not stand now. I would suggest that your children focus on Knockarush townland as a place where your ancestors may have come from based on the Tithe listings but I would not expect any part of a building to remain from 1840 except for a large building built for the gentry class.

As I mentioned before there were no Tyrrell households in 1855 in Boyle civil parish and I just checked and the 1901 census also does not show any Tyrrell families in Boyle civil parish.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Rodger: By now the family is in Roscommon somewhere. Told them not to take a photo of mound of gress and say here dad..

A little info on the Tyrrell's Sir Hugh Tyrrell 2 ,identified in the first conquest of Ireland, accompanied by cousin Strongbow, Earl of Pembroke in the year 1169, made Baron of Castlerock in 1173. A other son of Hugh 2nd was Richard who succeeded his father to the Irish titles and possessions and became the 2nd Baron of Castlerock. It is this Richard Tyrrell of Castlerock who was the founder of all the different branches of the English-Irish families The 9 majority ) of Tyrrells are still found in Westmeath, Kildare, Leinster. Dublin still has a load of Tyrrells

There is a book at the record center by Josph Tyrrell on the history of the family. Now I do not expect to get that far back in time, heck doubt if they can find a sod house but the family will enjoy your country and my ancestry.

Thank you Rodger keep in touch

Harold

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